Sooky Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 This is a great idea. I went to a school that had a catholic school across the road. We started calling them ******s because we heard the older kids doing it. Had no idea what it meant until I got older, you are taught hatred and I hope that if kids are taught that being whatever is fine at an early age then hopefully the bigots and idiots will be the ones scared to be themselves. There’s a group of wankers who shout homophobic stuff most weeks at Dunfermline games. They need to do one and I cringe every time they came out with the same bs song. Not sure how to get them to stop it, the police and stewards do nothing. I would hate to think that someone has brought a potential fan along to a game who is gay and heard that. Utterly shameful.I once got in an argument with someone who was telling me it was perfectly fine to call someone a “poofter” at a football game if their haircut justifies it, because the player isn’t actually gay themselves...If this does anything to help tackle such idiocy then I’m all for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavoj Žižek Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) Hot memo sent out to all Scottish headteachers this month: [Sorry for the formatting - it was a CTRL-V job from an email] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prevent: Safeguarding vulnerable individuals Language and terminology guidance Purpose: · Education Scotland and the Scottish Government recognise the importance of using appropriate and accurate language when leading discussions with children and young people, and this is particularly important when exploring current global social and political issues. Doing so minimises the risk of any individual feeling targeted, offended, stigmatised and/or unfairly represented. · This Language guidance provides an overview of some of the appropriate terminology which is used when discussing the themes, topics and groups who feature across the spectrum of violent extremism and terrorism both in Scotland and internationally. · You are encouraged to be reflective – think carefully before selecting the right words for your context and ask yourself what you really mean. Discussion Topic Safe Language Problematic Language General Criminals – It may be preferable to refer to terrorists as criminals (and/or murderers) who seek to undermine the values that we all share. This devalues their supposed cause. Extremists/Extremism – defined in the UK Government’s Prevent strategy since 2011 as ‘the vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs’. This is problematic language because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim. Violent Extremists – those who use violence to further their cause. The good thing about this label is that it makes the violence the focus. Radical and extreme are adjectives that should not be used to describe groups, activities or individuals in this context. Terrorism is defined in the 2000 Act as: the use or threat of action designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public … for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause. ‘War on terror’ and similar phrases which use imagery of battles should be avoided. These play into the military and violent language and symbolism of the narratives used by terrorist groups. Values Shared Values - Curriculum for Excellence defines and supports learning about the values and attitudes that our children and young people need to become responsible citizens who respect other people, different beliefs and cultures. Young people learn how these are fundamental in both local and global communities. British Values – this language is problematic because the concept of ‘British values’ can cause offence and could play into the hands of groups who seek to assert that there is an inherent conflict between being British and being Muslim. Prevent Safeguarding Vulnerable Individuals – a concerted effort has been made to position activity in Scotland to prevent radicalisation as an additional safeguarding issue. This underscores that Prevent operates in a pre-criminal space and has the wellbeing of the vulnerable individual as its primary concern. Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing – those organisations or individuals who have rejected democratic means of achieving their aims and objectives (and therefore embraced violence). Domestic Extremism – although this is the correct and widely used phrase to describe the threat from a range of groups including the Extreme Right Wing or Left Wing it is problematic because the use of ‘domestic’ to describe British nationals engaging in such activity suggests that British nationals involved in other causes are somehow foreign. It therefore plays up difference and feeds the ‘them and us’ world view being spread by terrorist groups. Far Right – those groups or individuals who do not go so far as to espouse violence. Electoral far right - this would include those parties who have stood in elections such as the British National Party or National Front. Northern Ireland Related Terrorism Criminals – It would be preferable to refer to criminals or those opposed to peace, as these terms devalue their supposed cause. Terrorists – although correct and acceptable to many in the community, it may be better to avoid using where possible, replacing with ‘Criminals’ instead. Dissident Republicans – this term is widely used for those groups who are violently opposed to the peace process. While not ideal language, especially within the wider Republican community, the term Dissident has become more associated with violent types in NI rather than its more common meaning. Republicans - Regularly (but incorrectly) used to refer to parties/groups who countenance the use of violence to promote Irish unity. To be avoided except in the correct historical or current political context. Loyalist Paramilitary Groups – this term is widely used for those groups who violently oppose Irish Republicanism. Loyalists - Acceptable when used accurately in the context of supporters of the PUP (Progressive Unionist Party), otherwise best avoided due to overtones of militancy. Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists Al-Qa’eda Inspired Violent Extremists (AQIVE) This phrase is considered to be the best way of describing the various terrorist groups and individuals who align to the Islamist ‘single narrative’. Al-Qa’eda is a terrorist organisation whose leadership is based in Afghanistan. ISIL/ISIS – refer to the terrorist organisation Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, or Islamic State in Iraq and Sham (the Arabic word for Syria). The acronym for the Arabic name for the group is DAESH Islamist extremist/terrorist – there is always a danger in using the word ‘Islamist’ as non-expert audiences are likely to hear ‘Islamic’ and all audiences will make a connection to the Muslim faith. This phrase is best avoided. The terms Jihad/jihadist can cause offence in Muslim communities when used in place of terrorism/terrorist. This is because Jihad simply means ‘struggle’ and within the context of Islam it can represent a range of challenges from the spiritual and physical challenge observed through Ramadan through to simply trying to be a better person. The word is most commonly used in the media as a reference to military jihad or a holy war. This is problematic and can reinforce the propaganda of groups who attempt to portray their violent acts as having a religious justification. Islamic State or IS – Avoid these names as it conveys a sense of legitimacy and statehood on the terrorist organisation ISIS. The Caliphate. Many Muslims would find it highly offensive to hear mentions to the Caliphate. This term is best avoided, instead referring to ‘territory controlled by ISIS’. #EISSTRIKE #10%NOW Edited November 20, 2018 by Slavoj Žižek "sniff" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 17/11/2018 at 11:56, DA Baracus said: The important question is what high school you went to. Bear in mind that out of a possible 5 answers, only 1 is acceptable. Queen Anne is the correct answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Queen Anne is the correct answer. Indeed it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 The good news keeps coming in Scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: The good news keeps coming in Scotland This is to be called an orange from now on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 Yeah. Words and meanings are changing everywhere! Apart from you. You'll still be a walloper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Yeah. Words and meanings are changing everywhere! Apart from you. You'll still be a walloper I demand the right to call it an orange. Just because it looks like an apple, doesn't mean it feels like one. Edited November 24, 2018 by BawWatchin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: This is to be called an orange from now on. Sorry but you’ve just assumed it’s gender. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) No one's saying you can't call that apple an orange (unless you're selling it I guess. Trade drescriptions and all that) Do what ye want. Walloper Edited November 24, 2018 by AsimButtHitsASix 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The Christian Institute boy in that story is fucking beeling. Good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 On 20/11/2018 at 02:55, AUFC90 said: Aye, in the future, paedophiles will be considered cool and all us normal folk were just catching up. No bother ya fucking eejit Yes maybe. Just ask certain members of the Labour Party who were on favour of lowering the legal age for sex with children to 10. Harriet Harmon as an example. And others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Yes maybe. Just ask certain members of the Labour Party who were on favour of lowering the legal age for sex with children to 10. Harriet Harmon as an example. And others.Wit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, DublinMagyar said: 1 hour ago, sureiknow said: Yes maybe. Just ask certain members of the Labour Party who were on favour of lowering the legal age for sex with children to 10. Harriet Harmon as an example. And others. Wit? An group called Pie, Paedophile Information Exchange was a subscriber with the NCCL, National Council for Civil Liberties from before she started working for them in the Seventies. She was never in favour of dropping the age of consent to ten, or at all. Edited November 24, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 An group called Pie, Paedophile Information Exchange was a subscriber with the NCCL, National Council for Civil Liberties from before she started working for them in the Seventies. She was never in favour of dropping the age of consent to ten, or at all.So, bollox then ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Yes maybe. Just ask certain members of the Labour Party who were on favour of lowering the legal age for sex with children to 10. Harriet Harmon as an example. And others.Aye nae bother [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 NotsureIknow having a bit of a disaster here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 NotsureIknow having a bit of a disaster here. I'm sure I know that this is a regular occurrence tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Good on Scotland for this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, Brother Blades said: NotsureIknow having a bit of a disaster here. Harriet Harmon said in the 70's a pornographic photo of a naked Child should not be viewed as indecent. Worrying. Edited November 25, 2018 by sureiknow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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