Gimme Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Would it be a shock if there is a LL 3 by next summer?All it needs is a single structure in the East and the same in the West feeding into it.East and West champions promoted into it with perhaps some kind if playoff for the runners up. Boundary between East and West kept flexible to even up the numbers each season following relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, edinabear said: LL2 might solve few issues. a 16 team league made up of 6 West Juniors, 2 SofS, 6 East of Scotland, 2 East Premier. The advantage the LL have this year is that LL2 has the potential of being the EoS Premier under a different name at the absolute minimum. That forces the West Region clubs to engage or be further left behind. Hopefully with both West and East involvement it'll see it being LL2 West and LL2 East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikos K Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 52 minutes ago, classof2010 said: How can a team without a ground get a license unless Clydebank going to groundshare with a licensed club to get into LL2 Keep up, they do have a ground which they share with Yoker. This no ground stuff regarding the Bankies is a bit tiresome, Holm Park will be getting redeveloped shortly I understand and I am sure they will be heading for their license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot 1978 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Keep up, they do have a ground which they share with Yoker. This no ground stuff regarding the Bankies is a bit tiresome, Holm Park will be getting redeveloped shortly I understand and I am sure they will be heading for their license.Nikos, What exactly is getting done at Holm Park? Are they both ground sharing or is Yoker the Landlord with the Bankies as Tenants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikos K Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 32 minutes ago, Talbot 1978 said: Nikos, What exactly is getting done at Holm Park? Are they both ground sharing or is Yoker the Landlord with the Bankies as Tenants? As far as I am aware they will be joint tenants of the council owned park. 3G , Floodlights and safe surrounding fence are the first things to get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think that the SoS merging with the West Region would happen eventually in some way. It could end up being something along the lines of the old West Region set up with bigger league sizes. 2x Region wide, 2x Central District, now 2x Ayrshire District/SoS. As for wanting to play region wide i'm sure the likes of Dalbeattie Star, Threave Rovers and Bonnyton Thistle would want to be a part of a fluid system. Pre-Lowland Dalbeattie and Threave ran teams in the EoS because it was a better standard, then they would both be founding members of the Lowland League. Dalbeattie are still a Lowland League side. While Threave get knocked for accepting relegation, they did it with the plan to rebuild and get back with a team capable of competing. As for Bonnyton i'm not sure why else they signed up if they didn't want to get as high as they could go.Bonnyton signed up to provide the complete pathway from boys club to senior. It'll be interesting to see whether they want to join a West league now that there appears to be one on the way, and if so would they be admitted straight into the top league given they are already a tier 6 club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Minutes from the recent EOS board meeting Just to help clarify matters the minutes from the EoS recent board meeting. Board Meeting Notes Date Thursday 25 October 2018 Time 7.00pm to 9.30pm SFA membership SFA Chief Executive Ian Maxwell has informed the League that the embargo on accepting new membership applications has been lifted. Any club that wishes to apply can now do so but should be aware the Club Licensing department contains only two members of staff whose role also covers the existing 90 SFA member clubs. It would therefore help the process if clubs state on their application if they think they already meet the licensing criteria. This would allow applications to be prioritised. Potential champion clubs should note the SLFL requires clubs to be in possession of an SFA License by 31 March for them to be eligible to take part in any play-off match for entry into the SLFL the following season. As all applications must first be approved by the SFA Board and then by the SFA’s Club Licensing committee it is essential they are submitted as soon as possible to increase the chance of meeting this 31 March deadline. All clubs should note the SFA Board is continuing to look at membership criteria and benefits and there may be changes suggested at next year’s SFA AGM – for example the format of the preliminary/early rounds of the Scottish Cup and associated distribution model, and introduction of floodlights at entry level are being considered. Some of these changes would be subject to approval by existing members at the SFA AGM and further information will be made available in due course. Pyramid Working Group The Board noted the Pyramid Working Group had met on 21 September 2018 and had agreed to the formation of additional tier 6 Leagues in the West and Tayside areas. The Board also noted differing views that had emerged from the PWG and that several EoSFL member clubs had made strong representation against the direct admission of the existing East Junior set-up at tier 6. The Board has therefore agreed to support the formation of separate Leagues in those areas and to emphasise the EoSFL is the recognised tier 6 League covering the Lothians, Borders, Stirlingshire and Fife. The PWG will next meet on 14 November 2018. Dual registration of SYFA players The EoSFL continues to seek agreement with the SYFA to allow players to represent their club in both EoSFL and SYFA fixtures and an update will be provided when there is further information. One consequence of the League’s trialist rule is that it allows a club to field age-level players with SYFA clubs in an unlimited number of League or Qualifying League matches, provided written permission is obtained from their club. Defibrillators The League has received a final quote for a bulk purchase of defibrillators. The Scottish Football Partnership has agreed to pay 50% of the cost, with the League contributing another 25%. That leaves a balance of £240 which will need to be paid by each club who received a defibrillator. Kenny McLean will shortly e-mail clubs to get formal commitments to purchase and then place an order. Investment in long term development of the game in the East of Scotland Four clubs have now been granted money from the fund set aside by the League for ground improvements that help them gain or maintain an SFA club license. Any club wishing to apply should send a fully-costed, evidenced written application to alistair@wilkielaw.co.uk. Each application will be considered on its merits by a sub-committee and the Board’s decision on whether to make an award for any particular project will be final and binding. Payments will not be made for work already completed. No club may receive more than one payment from the fund. All awards made will be conditional on the club remaining within the EoSFL or being promoted to the SLFL, failing which any money paid will need to be repaid fully on demand. Pitch inspections Clubs are reminded to familiarise themselves with League rule 9. A qualified referee is expected to make this decision although if both clubs (and the League) agree a decision can be made by the home club. If a pitch is unplayable the home club must inform their opponents, the referee and the League Secretary not later than 10am on the day of the match, or by 2pm for an evening fixture. A club may only declare a pitch unplayable the day before the fixture date in the event of extreme weather conditions or on the grounds of the health and safety of the players, officials or spectators of both Clubs. The League Secretary, if requested by either the visiting Club or the Board, may appoint a referee to carry out a pitch inspection. The standard fee for a pitch inspection will be £10 plus expenses on the Referees’ tariff and will be divided equally between the two clubs. Date of next meetings The next Board meeting will be on Thursday 22 November 2018 and the next General meeting will be in February 2019 at a venue to be confirmed. Reminders 1. Defibrillators must be in situ for all matches and ready for use should they be required. 2. Correspondence must be answered within requested timescales in accordance with League Rule 4. Failure to do so will result in a warning for a first offence followed by a statutory fine. 3. Goalscorer returns must be submitted to goals@eosfl.com within seven days of the end of each month using the form that has been provided by the League. This is required even when a club has scored no goals during the month. 4. The SFA’s football administration system must be kept up-to-date on a regular basis as necessary. Failure of clubs to do so will result in a deduction from the funds received by the League from the SFA. 5. Simon Kinghorn is the Child Protection Officer for both the East of Scotland Football League and East of Scotland Football Association. Should anyone have an issue they wish him to consider he can be contacted on 0781 754 5983. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 So the likes of Armadale, Bathgate and Tayport will have to move into the EoS if they want to get to tier 6 and above whilst the likes of Lochee, North End and Forfar West End now fall under a new Tayside tier 6? There will be East blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorsforme Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jason King said: So the likes of Armadale, Bathgate and Tayport will have to move into the EoS if they want to get to tier 6 and above whilst the likes of Lochee, North End and Forfar West End now fall under a new Tayside tier 6? There will be East blood. There is no Tayside league ! Tier 6 has the West and East juniors coming in for season 2019-20 .... Although the minutes state a Tayside league he knows it is the ERJFA. Tayside league was never referred to in the communication from Ian Maxwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, juniorsforme said: There is no Tayside league ! Tier 6 has the West and East juniors coming in for season 2019-20 .... Although the minutes state a Tayside league he knows it is the ERJFA. Tayside league was never referred to in the communication from Ian Maxwell That's clearly whats not actually said - The Board has therefore agreed to support the formation of separate Leagues in those areas and to emphasise the EoSFL is the recognised tier 6 League covering the Lothians, Borders, Stirlingshire and Fife. what is in those minutes is a clear split of the remaining East Junior teams - Fife and the Lothians to the EoS and Tayside with a new league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Interesting snippet about floodlights potentially being added soon to the entry level requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorsforme Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Jason King said: That's clearly whats not actually said - The Board has therefore agreed to support the formation of separate Leagues in those areas and to emphasise the EoSFL is the recognised tier 6 League covering the Lothians, Borders, Stirlingshire and Fife. what is in those minutes is a clear split of the remaining East Junior teams - Fife and the Lothians to the EoS and Tayside with a new league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorsforme Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, juniorsforme said: There is no mention of Tayside leagues !! Please read , The Scottish FA are pleased to confirm at its most recent PWG meeting concensus formed around admitting the existing Scottish Junior FA West and East Region leagues. The Scottish Junior FA will continue continue to administer both leagues with the top disvion in each region forming part of an expanded Tier 6 with conectivity to the Lowland league. I think you should ask the secretary who produced the EoS minutes why he introduced the word, Tayside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, juniorsforme said: Have you noticed how the SFA haven't published that statement, and there's been no vote to pass any structural changes into existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 So it's really quite simple: juniors want all their leagues at tier 6, EOS disagree on the East Superleague in it's current form on tier 6 & want to be the only route to the LL in the east (below the Tay) and a separate Tayside league. Nothing has been agreed yet but the 2 sides have laid out their cards and in the next meetings the discussion will undoubtedly continue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick90 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 No-one in their right mind should accept this nonsense, when we all know there are plenty of clubs in non-league better than many in League 2 .. even League 1. Scotland needs a real pyramid ... not this fake one set up to continue to prevent real competition. Few Non-league clubs have a vote ... they should vote with their feet and call on the government to step in .. re-organising the game should start at the top ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chimp house Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Ginaro said: Well yes, that's the whole point of a pyramid - the poorer teams are at the bottom, and the best teams are at the top. Except that once you get to the top of the Juniors there's nowhere for clubs to go, which is why the top league needs a connection to the Lowland League above it. Surely once you get to the top of the spl for example celtic or the top of the english premiership i.e. man city then there is nowhere to go either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 LL2 with two 16 team ‘East’ and ‘West’ divisions would allow 2.5 relegation spots from the LL with both champions going up and 2nd places playing off for a final play of with team 14 in the LL. it’s a good solution to various issues. It could allow the East Juniors who want to go up a place and other East Juniors a place in the new EOS structure, they simply have to merge.In the west you would pretty much have the West Superleague in there but it could also solve the Glasgow University question and allow any SoS teams who want it a route upwards.Tayside teams must move north and hopefully we will see the East Juniors north of the Tay and the North Juniors form a 16 team league below the HL, which can relegate two teams. I’d have had a River Earn —-> Tay boundary but Jeanfield’s participation in the EoS means that’s a non-starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not man of the match Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Nikos, What exactly is getting done at Holm Park? Are they both ground sharing or is Yoker the Landlord with the Bankies as Tenants?The council own Holm Park. New surface going down, floodlights going in and the security of the ground being upgraded initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chimp house Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, shuggie123 said: Celtic? You mean Hearts surely? aye and i hope it is Hearts at the end of the season too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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