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11 minutes ago, daleboy1969 said:

...if thdy are joined by another west lothian club and the existing west lothian clubs avoid relegation makes 4 west lothian clubs .at least one other could be in the promotion fight the following season .brings a balance to the league .

It was said that clubs left the juniors to fulfill ambitions . That in mind do all these clubs think they are good enough for the scottish football league ( if not what does the pyramid really offer) the harsh fact is 99% of non league clubs are not good enough on or off the field to join spfl.

Sure, but going by the current standings there would be 7/12 Tayside clubs next season. Depending on the 10th/2nd play-off, it could be either an eighth Tayside or a third West Lothian club (and then only two Fife teams).

Yes, clubs left the juniors to progress higher - I mean, what else can you do once you win the Superleague twice in four seasons like Kelty and Bonnyrigg did?  Just because 99% of clubs aren't good enough for the SPFL that doesn't mean that 1% should be prevented from a chance to gain promotion!

I could ask you - what does the Junior pyramid offer teams in the lower divisions? Do you really think all of the West League Two teams are good enough to play in the West Premiership?

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10 minutes ago, daleboy1969 said:

The lowland league is not the spfl .the point of the pyramid is to rise to the top .so as you admit this is not your clubs aim .then you are not totally commited to the pyramid .however like most the lure of a big pay day from the BIG scottish cup if sfa membership is successfull .i fully believe non league football needs better facilities, our club are committed to this .but can you truthfully say that facilities in your new surroundings are better than left behind .

The point is to be as successful as you van be. Not every team can get to spfl. Same as not many of many spfl league 1 and 2 get above that

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Would interesting to know how the LL intend to create LL2. Is it open to all or just EoS and SoS teams? Will it be open to the East and West Juniors?

What about glorified Boys Club or Amateur clubs, will they be invited to stake a claim for a place in LL2?

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3 minutes ago, Glenconner said:

Would interesting to know how the LL intend to create LL2. Is it open to all or just EoS and SoS teams? Will it be open to the East and West Juniors?

What about glorified Boys Club or Amateur clubs, will they be invited to stake a claim for a place in LL2?

Why wouldn't it be just the same as the Lowland League? Open to all, priority to those that meet the requirements of licencing.

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6 minutes ago, Glenconner said:

Would interesting to know how the LL intend to create LL2. Is it open to all or just EoS and SoS teams? Will it be open to the East and West Juniors?

What about glorified Boys Club or Amateur clubs, will they be invited to stake a claim for a place in LL2?

Junior clubs were invited the first time around, so suspect it would be seen as a way to get the best of the juniors (and former juniors in the EoS) in. They could even have east and west sections for LL2 and effectively take control of what was going to be tier 6 and bump the SoS and EoS down to tier 7.

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5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Junior clubs were invited the first time around, so suspect it would be seen as a way to get the best of the juniors (and former juniors in the EoS) in. They could even have east and west sections for LL2 and effectively take control of what was going to be tier 6 and bump the SoS and EoS down to tier 7.

I hadn't thought of them doing that. Taking in 30 odd clubs in a single season gets things away from junior/eos/sos right away.

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14 hours ago, Ginaro said:

Sure, but going by the current standings there would be 7/12 Tayside clubs next season. Depending on the 10th/2nd play-off, it could be either an eighth Tayside or a third West Lothian club (and then only two Fife teams).

Yes, clubs left the juniors to progress higher - I mean, what else can you do once you win the Superleague twice in four seasons like Kelty and Bonnyrigg did?  Just because 99% of clubs aren't good enough for the SPFL that doesn't mean that 1% should be prevented from a chance to gain promotion!

I could ask you - what does the Junior pyramid offer teams in the lower divisions? Do you really think all of the West League Two teams are good enough to play in the West Premiership?

The Saltcoats Vics and Ardeer Thistle's of this world would get pumped by the reserve sides of most Super League teams. The Sectional League Cup usually gives a good indication of the differences!

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12 minutes ago, superbigal said:

Yes if you have LL established at Tier 5 and EOS/SOS established at Tier 6

Why should LL be allowed to push everyone else down a notch ?

 

Real smart move by the LL.

If any of the bigs guns in the West Juniors are sleeping they best wake up fast. The LL is just about shaft everybody below them. Aye there you go lads, Pyramid aye nae bother. Btw, did we mention we’re starting a LL2.

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25 minutes ago, SaltyTON said:

The Saltcoats Vics and Ardeer Thistle's of this world would get pumped by the reserve sides of most Super League teams. The Sectional League Cup usually gives a good indication of the differences!

Well yes, that's the whole point of a pyramid - the poorer teams are at the bottom, and the best teams are at the top. Except that once you get to the top of the Juniors there's nowhere for clubs to go, which is why the top league needs a connection to the Lowland League above it.

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