Ginaro Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, daleboy1969 said: ...if thdy are joined by another west lothian club and the existing west lothian clubs avoid relegation makes 4 west lothian clubs .at least one other could be in the promotion fight the following season .brings a balance to the league . It was said that clubs left the juniors to fulfill ambitions . That in mind do all these clubs think they are good enough for the scottish football league ( if not what does the pyramid really offer) the harsh fact is 99% of non league clubs are not good enough on or off the field to join spfl. Sure, but going by the current standings there would be 7/12 Tayside clubs next season. Depending on the 10th/2nd play-off, it could be either an eighth Tayside or a third West Lothian club (and then only two Fife teams). Yes, clubs left the juniors to progress higher - I mean, what else can you do once you win the Superleague twice in four seasons like Kelty and Bonnyrigg did? Just because 99% of clubs aren't good enough for the SPFL that doesn't mean that 1% should be prevented from a chance to gain promotion! I could ask you - what does the Junior pyramid offer teams in the lower divisions? Do you really think all of the West League Two teams are good enough to play in the West Premiership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, daleboy1969 said: The lowland league is not the spfl .the point of the pyramid is to rise to the top .so as you admit this is not your clubs aim .then you are not totally commited to the pyramid .however like most the lure of a big pay day from the BIG scottish cup if sfa membership is successfull .i fully believe non league football needs better facilities, our club are committed to this .but can you truthfully say that facilities in your new surroundings are better than left behind . The point is to be as successful as you van be. Not every team can get to spfl. Same as not many of many spfl league 1 and 2 get above that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 21:51, Glenconner said: Only a matter of time before there’s a LL Division 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 44 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Without any inside information that would seem like a logical step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Would interesting to know how the LL intend to create LL2. Is it open to all or just EoS and SoS teams? Will it be open to the East and West Juniors? What about glorified Boys Club or Amateur clubs, will they be invited to stake a claim for a place in LL2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Glenconner said: Would interesting to know how the LL intend to create LL2. Is it open to all or just EoS and SoS teams? Will it be open to the East and West Juniors? What about glorified Boys Club or Amateur clubs, will they be invited to stake a claim for a place in LL2? Why wouldn't it be just the same as the Lowland League? Open to all, priority to those that meet the requirements of licencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Glenconner said: Would interesting to know how the LL intend to create LL2. Is it open to all or just EoS and SoS teams? Will it be open to the East and West Juniors? What about glorified Boys Club or Amateur clubs, will they be invited to stake a claim for a place in LL2? Junior clubs were invited the first time around, so suspect it would be seen as a way to get the best of the juniors (and former juniors in the EoS) in. They could even have east and west sections for LL2 and effectively take control of what was going to be tier 6 and bump the SoS and EoS down to tier 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Junior clubs were invited the first time around, so suspect it would be seen as a way to get the best of the juniors (and former juniors in the EoS) in. They could even have east and west sections for LL2 and effectively take control of what was going to be tier 6 and bump the SoS and EoS down to tier 7. I hadn't thought of them doing that. Taking in 30 odd clubs in a single season gets things away from junior/eos/sos right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Cute move from the LL clubs. Could see it coming long term but this smacks of self preservation certainly in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yes if you have LL established at Tier 5 and EOS/SOS established at Tier 6 Why should LL be allowed to push everyone else down a notch ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTON Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 14 hours ago, Ginaro said: Sure, but going by the current standings there would be 7/12 Tayside clubs next season. Depending on the 10th/2nd play-off, it could be either an eighth Tayside or a third West Lothian club (and then only two Fife teams). Yes, clubs left the juniors to progress higher - I mean, what else can you do once you win the Superleague twice in four seasons like Kelty and Bonnyrigg did? Just because 99% of clubs aren't good enough for the SPFL that doesn't mean that 1% should be prevented from a chance to gain promotion! I could ask you - what does the Junior pyramid offer teams in the lower divisions? Do you really think all of the West League Two teams are good enough to play in the West Premiership? The Saltcoats Vics and Ardeer Thistle's of this world would get pumped by the reserve sides of most Super League teams. The Sectional League Cup usually gives a good indication of the differences! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, superbigal said: Yes if you have LL established at Tier 5 and EOS/SOS established at Tier 6 Why should LL be allowed to push everyone else down a notch ? Real smart move by the LL. If any of the bigs guns in the West Juniors are sleeping they best wake up fast. The LL is just about shaft everybody below them. Aye there you go lads, Pyramid aye nae bother. Btw, did we mention we’re starting a LL2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, superbigal said: Yes if you have LL established at Tier 5 and EOS/SOS established at Tier 6 Why should LL be allowed to push everyone else down a notch ? No different than the SPFL creating a new division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: No different than the SPFL creating a new division. Which is fair enough if the Junior clubs that want in, get in ie Clydebank as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classof2010 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Which is fair enough if the Junior clubs that want in, get in ie Clydebank as an example.How can a team without a ground get a license unless Clydebank going to groundshare with a licensed club to get into LL2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, classof2010 said: How can a team without a ground get a license unless Clydebank going to groundshare with a licensed club to get into LL2 Probably best ask Glasgow BSC for advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, classof2010 said: How can a team without a ground get a license unless Clydebank going to groundshare with a licensed club to get into LL2 If they are groundsharing at Maryhill they already have a ground that meets licencing standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, SaltyTON said: The Saltcoats Vics and Ardeer Thistle's of this world would get pumped by the reserve sides of most Super League teams. The Sectional League Cup usually gives a good indication of the differences! Well yes, that's the whole point of a pyramid - the poorer teams are at the bottom, and the best teams are at the top. Except that once you get to the top of the Juniors there's nowhere for clubs to go, which is why the top league needs a connection to the Lowland League above it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 LL2 might solve few issues. a 16 team league made up of 6 West Juniors, 2 SofS, 6 East of Scotland, 2 East Premier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, edinabear said: LL2 might solve few issues. a 16 team league made up of 6 West Juniors, 2 SofS, 6 East of Scotland, 2 East Premier. Would it be a shock if there is a LL 3 by next summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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