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In this article it's mentioned that FIFA are planning an annual Club World Cup, probably of 16, 24 or even more clubs, involving various bigger European teams. The following bit is interesting: "Individual clubs, including Real Madrid and Barcelona, as well as those from the Premier League, emerged from Fifa presentations supporting the idea of a new Club World Cup every four years, which promised an average of more than £100m to each participating club." So basically, it's becoming a new tournament with lots of cash involved. It could potentially be a rival to the Champions League, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

UEFA win the "most hypocritical comment of the year" award though:

The Uefa president, Aleksander Ceferin, derided the Fifa plan in May, in a speech to EU sports ministers, saying: “I cannot accept that some people who are blinded by the pursuit of profit are considering to sell the soul of football tournaments to nebulous private funds. Money does not rule – and the European sports model must be respected. Football is not for sale. I will not let anyone sacrifice its structures on the altar of a highly cynical and ruthless mercantilism.”

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Was the original idea not to replace the Confederations Cup with a new version of the format that flopped in 2000 (when Manchester Utd skipped the FA Cup claiming it would all be too much for them) and folded after a TV rights scandal in 2001, IIRC?

Although the last edition wasn't too memorable it'd be a shame to lose the Confederations Cup, and I can't imagine a tournament with the last 4 winners from each of the North America, Asian, African and Oceanian tournaments would be setting peoples hearts racing.

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Was the original idea not to replace the Confederations Cup with a new version of the format that flopped in 2000 (when Manchester Utd skipped the FA Cup claiming it would all be too much for them) and folded after a TV rights scandal in 2001, IIRC?

Although the last edition wasn't too memorable it'd be a shame to lose the Confederations Cup, and I can't imagine a tournament with the last 4 winners from each of the North America, Asian, African and Oceanian tournaments would be setting peoples hearts racing.
Not in Europe maybe, but definitely in China and the Arabian peninsula, and it's their money this is surely designed to tap.
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12 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

Was the original idea not to replace the Confederations Cup with a new version of the format that flopped in 2000 (when Manchester Utd skipped the FA Cup claiming it would all be too much for them) and folded after a TV rights scandal in 2001, IIRC?

Although the last edition wasn't too memorable it'd be a shame to lose the Confederations Cup, and I can't imagine a tournament with the last 4 winners from each of the North America, Asian, African and Oceanian tournaments would be setting peoples hearts racing.

 

1 hour ago, GordonS said:
12 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:
Was the original idea not to replace the Confederations Cup with a new version of the format that flopped in 2000 (when Manchester Utd skipped the FA Cup claiming it would all be too much for them) and folded after a TV rights scandal in 2001, IIRC?

Although the last edition wasn't too memorable it'd be a shame to lose the Confederations Cup, and I can't imagine a tournament with the last 4 winners from each of the North America, Asian, African and Oceanian tournaments would be setting peoples hearts racing.

Not in Europe maybe, but definitely in China and the Arabian peninsula, and it's their money this is surely designed to tap.

It seems that this new tournament is basically going to be like the champions league, but in tournament format in a host country: mainly the big European teams, complemented by some teams from other continents. The only difference in teams taking part will probably be that this time the "whipping boys" won't be the champions from the "lesser" European countries, but instead the teams from the other continents.

If you add a team from places like China, the Arabian Gulf, USA and so on, you are creating a massive TV market and even more interest in those countries, even if these teams are just whipping boys.

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1 hour ago, Marten said:

 

It seems that this new tournament is basically going to be like the champions league, but in tournament format in a host country: mainly the big European teams, complemented by some teams from other continents. The only difference in teams taking part will probably be that this time the "whipping boys" won't be the champions from the "lesser" European countries, but instead the teams from the other continents.

If you add a team from places like China, the Arabian Gulf, USA and so on, you are creating a massive TV market and even more interest in those countries, even if these teams are just whipping boys.

Absolutely. LA Galaxy, Guangzhou Evergrande and Al-Hilal bring a helluva lot more money to the table than Red Star, Viktoria Plzen and AEK. They'll need to accept the big European clubs getting the lion's share of the money or they'll not bother showing up, though.

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While the Confederation Cup isn't fantastic (but has seen some fantastic games) it serves a great purpose in allowing World Cup hosts the chance to make sure their stadia, infrastructure and so on are on schedule. Hopefully this plan doesn't go through (although UEFA are the biggest hypocrites going).

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On 24 October 2018 at 00:50, Marten said:

In this article it's mentioned that FIFA are planning an annual Club World Cup, probably of 16, 24 or even more clubs, involving various bigger European teams. The following bit is interesting: "Individual clubs, including Real Madrid and Barcelona, as well as those from the Premier League, emerged from Fifa presentations supporting the idea of a new Club World Cup every four years, which promised an average of more than £100m to each participating club." So basically, it's becoming a new tournament with lots of cash involved. It could potentially be a rival to the Champions League, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

UEFA win the "most hypocritical comment of the year" award though:

 

This tournament sounds utter garbage.

 

Unfortunately the plastics all over the world will lap it up and it will be a huge money spinner and therefore deemed a huge success.

 

Another nail in the coffin for proper competitive domestic football.

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Considering they're talking about July/August, it will probably just replace the current lucrative pre-season tournaments to something that's not just a bunch of friendlies, but more structured with an actual trophy connected to it (and commercially even more interesting).

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New tournament ends literally the day before the Africa Cup of Nations and Gold Cup start but:

"Fifa said it was aware of concerns of serious interference with critical matches but added that members of its own task force felt that it was feasible"

:lol:

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3 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

New tournament ends literally the day before the Africa Cup of Nations and Gold Cup start but:

"Fifa said it was aware of concerns of serious interference with critical matches but added that members of its own task force felt that it was feasible"

:lol:

"The tournament would run from 17 June to 4 July, with 2022 World Cup qualifiers (31 May to 8 June) preceding it and the African Cup of Nations and Concacaf Gold Cup taking place from 5 July to 31 July."

Saw this earlier and had a right good laugh myself. A full tournament sandwiched right in between World Cup qualifiers and two major international tournaments.

They really are greedy, greedy b*stards.

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In the past the Confederations Cup would have been held that June, granted; but it was shorter, could only involve 1 African & 1 North/Central American sides, and they wouldn't play WC qualifiers beforehand IIRC.

They're basically requiring good numbers of top African and North American players to go 2 years solid and potentially miss the opening match of their continental finals tournament. On top of that 2021-22 domestic seasons may also have to start early, to end early, to let 2022-23 start early to accommodate Qatar 2022.

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FIFA has announced the Club World Cup will expand in 2025 to feature an enormous 32 clubs so the same size as current World Cup itself. It'll run every 4 years.

There'll also be new intercontinental mini-tournaments for nations, in March, from 2026 called 'World Series'. They'll run every 2 years.

September & October international windows merging into 1 longer 4-game window.

WC 2026 expansion to 48 nations will now feature 4-team groups.

Of course UEFA themselves are expanding the Nations League - adding South American sides, and increasing the size of the Finals tournament; have reintroduced the old Artemio Franchi Trophy as contested at Wembley in June, between Italy & Argentina; plus are expanding their European club groupstages from 2024-25 to 8 games over 10 dates, plus extra CL KO round.

Looks like international football just got busier. Again.

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So presumably future European international calendar will look like:

2024-25
Sep      Nations League x4
Nov     Nations League x2
Mar     WC qualifiers x2
Jun      WC qualifiers x2 / Nations League Finals
Jul        Club World Cup

2025-26
Sep              WC qualifiers x4
Nov             WC qualifiers x2
Mar             World Series / WC playoffs
Jun-Jul      World Cup

2026-27
Sep      Nations League x4
Nov     Nations League x2
Mar     Euro qualifiers x2
Jun      Euro qualifiers x2 / Nations League Finals
Jul        free

2027-28
Sep      Euro qualifiers x4
Nov     Euro qualifiers x2
Mar     World Series / Euro playoffs
Jun       Euros
Jul        Olympics

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How are the teams chosen for this? 

Surely they will be trying to get the so called 'super league' sides involved in this as much as they can.

A massive bumper financial package to those involved which will help increase competition in their respective leagues.

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