tarapoa Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, scoobles said: Buchan folk say it as well but it is more °yows" Wouldn't want to be calling some off those chiels "weegie" Except the Blue Toon Loyal or Fraserburgh Emerald maybe Edited March 7, 2019 by tarapoa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, tarapoa said: A soundly put argument - but unless you're a mafia hood, society has learned to live without fish having a different plural.................it can do the same for 'you'. It's a mass noun though, and the use of it is preceded by a number. You tend to say "a fish", or "some fish" or some other quantifier, leaving no room for confusion. "You" is subject to misinterpretation if used by itself, which is why people add on bits to make it "all of you", "you all" etc. Youse follows the imperative of linguistic evolution which is to be efficient and unambiguous. So, aye, "calling cards of linguistic sophisticates thread", for this pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 hours ago, ++Ammo - Airdrie++ said: Only acceptable if its the 3rd of January IMO. Close. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) As far as I'm concerned, there's a fundamental difference between what I could call 'dialect grammar' and what is simply 'bad grammar'. For example, "you's headin' out the 'moro wi' they two?" could be pretty standard where I grew up, but importantly, everybody knows that it should be "are you heading out tomorrow with those two?". This is still acceptable in my book seeing as it's a recognised form of sentence structure, at least at a local dialect level anyway. Put in a particular (say formal business) situation, you could easily jump out of it, knocking out a chunk of your vocabulary in the process. On the other hand, "They is heading out" would be an example of 'bad grammar' seeing as nobody else ever says that. 'Bad grammar' is completely unacceptable and shocking behaviour that should be called out by the pedant police regardless of time and place (requires an education about the local linguistics in order to differentiate of course). Edited March 7, 2019 by Hedgecutter 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 TLDR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: TLDR ^^^ Example of 'bad punctuation'. The semicolon is conspicuous by its absence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 ^^^ Example of 'bad punctuation'. The semicolon is conspicuous by its absence. <_> And what bus should I take to get there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: 16 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: ^^^ Example of 'bad punctuation'. The semicolon is conspicuous by its absence. <_> And what bus should I take to get there? One to the capital, so make a dash for the next Edinburgh bus that comes to a full stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crroma Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Taking a week off to get wasted around your birthday is no more a waste than flying to an expensive foreign country to get wasted for a week :shrug: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Why do you need to get wasted on your birthday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crroma Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I'm wasted every other day so its just a natural progression 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The biggest calling card of morons right now is people who defend Michael Jackson or complain that his nonce behaviour is in some way about them and their memories/music taste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: As far as I'm concerned, there's a fundamental difference between what I could call 'dialect grammar' and what is simply 'bad grammar'. For example, "you's headin' out the 'moro wi' they two?" could be pretty standard where I grew up, but importantly, everybody knows that it should be "are you heading out tomorrow with those two?". This is still acceptable in my book seeing as it's a recognised form of sentence structure, at least at a local dialect level anyway. Put in a particular (say formal business) situation, you could easily jump out of it, knocking out a chunk of your vocabulary in the process. On the other hand, "They is heading out" would be an example of 'bad grammar' seeing as nobody else ever says that. 'Bad grammar' is completely unacceptable and shocking behaviour that should be called out by the pedant police regardless of time and place (requires an education about the local linguistics in order to differentiate of course). Depends where you live. "They is heading out" would be OK in these parts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I'm in favour of using "yous", but it should be used to refer to one you, given that it is a contraction of you (singular). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Talk however you want, the rest is just snobbery or inarticulacy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Malcolm Malcolm said: Talk however you want, the rest is just snobbery or inarticulacy Quiet definately, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Quiet definately, Haha I didn't say write or spell... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Malcolm Malcolm said: Talk however you want, the rest is just snobbery or inarticulacy Gef wiwifan rom seleniency? Wan tiubat! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: I'm in favour of using "yous", but it should be used to refer to one you, given that it is a contraction of you (singular). I disagree, it should be reserved for the lacking and distinctive plural in standard English. Eg. distinguishing between asking an individual or group what their plans are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I disagree, it should be reserved for the lacking and distinctive plural in standard English. Eg. distinguishing between asking an individual or group what their plans are. Yous are wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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