DA Baracus Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, The Moonster said: It might be used too often but it doesn't mean every time it is said that the person must be a moron. It's quite obvious that players, and teams of players, have either stopped caring or believing in what the manager says and their performance levels drop with it. I mean you can't tell me that the Morton side that shipped 10 to Hamilton hadn't absolutely thrown the towel in? That's just the most blatant one I can think of but there will be numerous good examples of teams chucking it under certain gaffers. As I said, on occasion it's probably true, but the vast majority of the time it's used it's nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, DA Baracus said: I still don't get how so many fans don't understand what a big role confidence plays either. It's massive and very discernable, yet braindead cavemen will cry about it and claim it's a lack of effort or say players need to 'man up' Don't know if it's ever been double blind tested, but I'm sure screaming how shite they are at players having a drop in form helps get their confidence back.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Don't know if it's ever been double blind tested, but I'm sure screaming how shite they are at players having a drop in form helps get their confidence back.. I demand a study! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, DA Baracus said: I'm sure I've said this before, but claiming a lack of effort and/or passion when a team isn’t doing well or has a pish result. The Pars were abysmal last season, but I didn't see a lack of effort from a single player. It's just an easy, stupid thing to claim. On a rare occasion it's probably true of an individual player, but to claim the entire team haven't tried hard enough is utter pish. I still don't get how so many fans don't understand what a big role confidence plays either. It's massive and very discernable, yet braindead cavemen will cry about it and claim it's a lack of effort or say players need to 'man up' have always thought this. I mean, aye, we didn’t play well but how how realistic is it that the team weren’t actually trying. Nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 9 hours ago, DA Baracus said: I'm sure I've said this before, but claiming a lack of effort and/or passion when a team isn’t doing well or has a pish result. The Pars were abysmal last season, but I didn't see a lack of effort from a single player. It's just an easy, stupid thing to claim. On a rare occasion it's probably true of an individual player, but to claim the entire team haven't tried hard enough is utter pish. I still don't get how so many fans don't understand what a big role confidence plays either. It's massive and very discernable, yet braindead cavemen will cry about it and claim it's a lack of effort or say players need to 'man up' Also, a lot of the time, the players just aren’t good enough. Football fans often think their own players are a lot better than they are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Just now, TheScarf said: Also, a lot of the time, the players just aren’t good enough. Football fans often think their own players are a lot better than they are. Last seasons Falkirk team dismantle the effort argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 For example, Dunfermline were favourites for the title last season on here, but they had Todorov, O’Hara and Wighton as their strikers. To fans of all other clubs in the league, they’re 3 bog standard Championship level strikers, but lots of Pars fans had them as having the league sewn up by Christmas with them up front. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Lack of goals quite often is not down to the quality of the strikers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I'll be honest here, with the, I think its fair to say fairly recent shift of power towards players and agents in terms of getting what they want, including getting managers punted, and too many examples ot mention of teams having a dramatic upturn in form after a manger gets hunted, I think you have to be blind not to see examples of individuals and teams dropping the effort levels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Cosmic Joe said: Lack of goals quite often is not down to the quality of the strikers. It’s always a factor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 14 hours ago, DA Baracus said: I'm sure I've said this before, but claiming a lack of effort and/or passion when a team isn’t doing well or has a pish result. The Pars were abysmal last season, but I didn't see a lack of effort from a single player. It's just an easy, stupid thing to claim. On a rare occasion it's probably true of an individual player, but to claim the entire team haven't tried hard enough is utter pish. I still don't get how so many fans don't understand what a big role confidence plays either. It's massive and very discernable, yet braindead cavemen will cry about it and claim it's a lack of effort or say players need to 'man up' Dunfermline employed Yogi Hughes to get them out of the shit, a miracle he failed to perform at Hartlepool and Raith Rovers, I wonder what the real problem is here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) Folk who seem to think because a manager wins a cup or a league he's automatically better than another manager who didn't. There's good managers who won very little and bad managers who've won cups. I think it was Marvin Bartley on A View From The Terrace who hinted that Alan Stubbs wasn't a very good manager but had a good squad who pulled together. Edited July 17, 2022 by Highland Capital 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 14 hours ago, DA Baracus said: I'm sure I've said this before, but claiming a lack of effort and/or passion when a team isn’t doing well or has a pish result. The Pars were abysmal last season, but I didn't see a lack of effort from a single player. It's just an easy, stupid thing to claim. On a rare occasion it's probably true of an individual player, but to claim the entire team haven't tried hard enough is utter pish. I still don't get how so many fans don't understand what a big role confidence plays either. It's massive and very discernable, yet braindead cavemen will cry about it and claim it's a lack of effort or say players need to 'man up' England fans used to be atrocious for this. Any time they didn't batter the opposition, it was because the players just didn't care enough and needed more "passion". No doubt it'll return as soon as their good run comes to an end. Unfortunately, that's been seeping into the Scotland threads in recent years, ironically as we've started doing slightly better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 Reminds me of a caller on TalkSport after England got thumped by Germany in the 2010 World Cup (the one with the Lampard ghost goal). She phoned in saying the players weren’t trying hard enough and - and I quote - “at the end of the game they should be being physically sick!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Highland Capital said: Folk who seem to think because a manager wins a cup or a league he's automatically better than another manager who didn't. There's good managers who won very little and bad managers who've won cups. I think it was Marvin Andrews on A View From The Terrace who hinted that Alan Stubbs wasn't a very good manager but had a good squad who pulled together. I thought it was quite obvious Alan Stubbs was a terrible manager and only hibs fans (somewhat understandably) protest it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A96 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Bound to have been mentioned in relation to the golf ....but shouting out something inane a split second after a player hits a shot. I'm not sure what it is the morons are shouting, but I think I could make out a shout of "Mashed potatoes !!" in an American accent (probably put on) immediately after Dustin Johnson struck a tee shot a wee while ago. Deserving of the spiked sole of an old golf shoe being swiftly administered to the moron's knackers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxo Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 18 hours ago, DA Baracus said: I'm sure I've said this before, but claiming a lack of effort and/or passion when a team isn’t doing well or has a pish result. The Pars were abysmal last season, but I didn't see a lack of effort from a single player. It's just an easy, stupid thing to claim. On a rare occasion it's probably true of an individual player, but to claim the entire team haven't tried hard enough is utter pish. I still don't get how so many fans don't understand what a big role confidence plays either. It's massive and very discernable, yet braindead cavemen will cry about it and claim it's a lack of effort or say players need to 'man up' Surprised to read this from a fan of a team that had Liam Polwarth on loan from us last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Bound to have been mentioned in relation to the golf ....but shouting out something inane a split second after a player hits a shot. I'm not sure what it is the morons are shouting, but I think I could make out a shout of "Mashed potatoes !!" in an American accent (probably put on) immediately after Dustin Johnson struck a tee shot a wee while ago. Deserving of the spiked sole of an old golf shoe being swiftly administered to the moron's knackers.I think that was originally a piss-take at the idiots that shout "get in the hole" on a par 5.Unfortunately it's now become part and parcel of the idiot brigade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendot Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Highland Capital said: Reminds me of a caller on TalkSport after England got thumped by Germany in the 2010 World Cup (the one with the Lampard ghost goal). She phoned in saying the players weren’t trying hard enough and - and I quote - “at the end of the game they should be being physically sick!” I think they were but that was from from finding out that John Terry was shagging their birds behind their backs and not the match itself 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendot Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, A96 said: Bound to have been mentioned in relation to the golf ....but shouting out something inane a split second after a player hits a shot. I'm not sure what it is the morons are shouting, but I think I could make out a shout of "Mashed potatoes !!" in an American accent (probably put on) immediately after Dustin Johnson struck a tee shot a wee while ago. Deserving of the spiked sole of an old golf shoe being swiftly administered to the moron's knackers. Aye it's putting me off watching the open. Seems to be a fall out from recent Ryder cups where a boisterous atmosphere is encouraged and it's becoming more of a norm to the majors 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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