Dee Man Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 As Turkish forensic scientists enter the Saudi consul-general's residence in Istanbul looking for evidence of Jamal Khashoggi's murder, reports suggest he was dismembered by the Saudi's head of forensic evidence on a table in the study over 7 minutes while still alive. As any considerate person would do if they were dismembering someone, he suggested to the others in the room that they should put on headphones and listen to music while he went about his business as that's what he usually does. What a nice guy. What I don't get is why it took so long for the Turkish investigators to enter the Saudi's properties - I'm guessing it's because they were soverign territory of the Saudi's and couldn't be entered without permission - and secondly, why was the consul-general allowed to leave the country since he is heard on the tape shortly before Khashoggi is killed? Are any p&b'ers experts in Saudi/Turkish diplomatic relations? Have any p&b'ers ever been dismembered while still alive on a table in a foreign consulate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The whole thing is a joke both to humanity and politics. However I am not too annoyed or outraged at the Saudi’s because I would assume that 90% of governments around the world kill people, some in ways as bad or worse than this, on a daily or weekly basis. I would follow this up by saying “humanity is fucked” but then again I would assume this type of thing has happened as far back as the history of humans. PS - your assumption of why the Turkish investigators were not allowed in sooner is correct, a consulate is classed as being part of that country. Hence why British popo cannot just walk into the embassy holding Assange and take him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The Consul General presumably had diplomatic immunity, and the Turks couldn't have entered the buildings without permission. Sounds like they painted over everything with gloss paint, I'll bear that in mind for the future. They say they drugged him before sawing him up alive. Hope they knocked him out rather than just paralyzing him so he couldn't scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The Consul General presumably had diplomatic immunity, and the Turks couldn't have entered the buildings without permission. Sounds like they painted over everything with gloss paint, I'll bear that in mind for the future. They say they drugged him before sawing him up alive. Hope they knocked him out rather than just paralyzing him so he couldn't scream. Apparently there were screams heard on the tape. Allegedly the first thing they did was chop his fingers off so maybe they did that before the drugs had kicked in. Charming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dindeleux said: The whole thing is a joke both to humanity and politics. However I am not too annoyed or outraged at the Saudi’s because I would assume that 90% of governments around the world kill people, some in ways as bad or worse than this, on a daily or weekly basis. I would follow this up by saying “humanity is fucked” but then again I would assume this type of thing has happened as far back as the history of humans. PS - your assumption of why the Turkish investigators were not allowed in sooner is correct, a consulate is classed as being part of that country. Hence why British popo cannot just walk into the embassy holding Assange and take him away. Aye, boys will be boys, why the fuss. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, welshbairn said: Aye, boys will be boys, why the fuss. Jesus. I'm not really saying that I'm just saying that its not unique to Saudi I would guess. The first line of my post sums up my feelings on the thing, I'm not justifying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Dindeleux said: However I am not too annoyed or outraged at the Saudi’s because I would assume that 90% of governments around the world kill people, some in ways as bad or worse than this, on a daily or weekly basis. Yeah, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The Turks should have sent in Danny Glover to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Dem crazy moose limbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: The Turks should have sent in Danny Glover to investigate. Surely he's too old for this shit by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Trump is an enabler of the Saudi regime. “Of course killing journalsts is bad but not that bad”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Yeah, no. You don't think so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopburn boy Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Trump is an enabler of the Saudi regime. “Of course killing journalsts is bad but not that bad”. With the cash flowing for oil and arms sales , the opposite could very well be said to be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dindeleux said: You don't think so? I think the Saudi government is considerably worse at human rights than near enough every country in the world, and relative to the GDP of the country and the quality of life possible via that they're a complete fucking bin. Have a wee read and tell me if you really think there are countries in the world that are third world and/or in the middle of civil war that are comparable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I think the Saudi government is considerably worse at human rights than near enough every country in the world, and relative to the GDP of the country and the quality of life possible via that they're a complete fucking bin. Have a wee read and tell me if you really think there are countries in the world that are third world and/or in the middle of civil war that are comparable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia Cheers, will do. Moving away from human rights - do you think most governments around the world will illegally kill people each year and cover it up or have I been watched the film Conspiracy Theory too many times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I think the Saudi government is considerably worse at human rights than near enough every country in the world, and relative to the GDP of the country and the quality of life possible via that they're a complete fucking bin. Have a wee read and tell me if you really think there are countries in the world that are third world and/or in the middle of civil war that are comparable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia Interesting stuff. I'd have received a few lashes for the weekend just gone for apostasy and drunkeness if I'd been in the Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I think the Saudi government is considerably worse at human rights than near enough every country in the world, and relative to the GDP of the country and the quality of life possible via that they're a complete fucking bin. Have a wee read and tell me if you really think there are countries in the world that are third world and/or in the middle of civil war that are comparable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia And add the fact they've been promoting Jihadism globally for decades by setting up schools, mosques and sending out extremist teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish's Passenger Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Heads gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, Dee Man said: Interesting stuff. I'd have received a few lashes for the weekend just gone for apostasy and drunkeness if I'd been in the Kingdom. Don’t think you could be an apostate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Don’t think you could be an apostate. Having re-read the definition you are quite right. I did definitely commit blasphemy though. Come at me, Mohammad Bin Salman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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