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13 minutes ago, gogsy said:

League table in Scottish Non league review 2008/9 season doesn't give any indication of points awarded.:unsure2: Same table in this link.

http://fifejuniorhistory.eu5.org/fife2008-09.html

This was the table from the excel archive from Scottish Football Historical Archive back in the day

EAST 2008 - 2009              
             
                               
SUPER LEAGUE PREMIER DIVISION 2008 - 2009       TABLE MATHEMATICALLY SOUND
Pos CLUB Pld W D L F A Pts      
1 Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic 22 12 5 5 40 28 51 22 41    
2 Camelon 22 11 2 9 44 33 51 22 35  
3 Linlithgow Rose 22 10 2 10 30 29 35 22 32  
4 Whitburn 22 8 7 7 34 32 35 22 31  
5 Kelty Hearts 22 8 6 8 39 31 33 22 30 8
6 Hill of Beath Hawthorn 22 9 3 10 30 32 30 22 30 -2
7 Glenrothes 22 8 6 8 27 43 27 22 30 -16
8 Bathgate Thistle 22 8 5 9 36 27 25 22 29 9
9 Lochee United 22 8 5 9 30 41 25 22 29 -11
10 Bo'ness United 22 8 4 10 26 38 24 22 28  
11 Forfar West End 22 7 6 9 34 33 22 22 27  
12 Tayport 22 7 5 10 26 29 16 22 26  
    264 104 56 104 396 396 374 264 368          

 

When I noticed the difference in points, I went looking and found 2008-09 to be the main culprit in the difference. With Thornton Hibs randomly having an extra point in 2004-05.

So I went looking for another table. Couldn't find one. The best I could get was http://fchd.info/indexa-z.htm

And checking individual clubs. Where you can see it includes the points added or subtracted. Camelon being the main beneficiary with +16. Which is why I was asking what happened in 2008-09

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This is the 2008-2009 Superleague table

EAST REGION SUPERLEAGUE Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic   22 12 5 5 40 28 12 41
2 Camelon Juniors   22 11 2 9 44 33 11 35
3 Linlithgow Rose   22 10 2 10 30 29 1 32
4 Whitburn Juniors   22 8 7 7 34 32 2 31
5 Kelty Hearts   22 8 6 8 39 31 8 30
6 Hill of Beath Hawthorn   22 9 3 10 30 32 -2 30
7 Glenrothes   22 8 6 8 28 43 -15 30
8 Bathgate Thistle   22 8 5 9 36 27 9 29
9 Lochee United   22 8 5 9 30 41 -11 29
10 Boness United   22 8 4 10 26 38 -12 28
11 Forfar West End   22 7 6 9 34 34 0 27
12 Tayport   22 7 5 10 26 29 -3 26
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2 hours ago, Burnie_man said:

This is the 2008-2009 Superleague table

EAST REGION SUPERLEAGUE Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic   22 12 5 5 40 28 12 41
2 Camelon Juniors   22 11 2 9 44 33 11 35
3 Linlithgow Rose   22 10 2 10 30 29 1 32
4 Whitburn Juniors   22 8 7 7 34 32 2 31
5 Kelty Hearts   22 8 6 8 39 31 8 30
6 Hill of Beath Hawthorn   22 9 3 10 30 32 -2 30
7 Glenrothes   22 8 6 8 28 43 -15 30
8 Bathgate Thistle   22 8 5 9 36 27 9 29
9 Lochee United   22 8 5 9 30 41 -11 29
10 Boness United   22 8 4 10 26 38 -12 28
11 Forfar West End   22 7 6 9 34 34 0 27
12 Tayport   22 7 5 10 26 29 -3 26

That was a mighty tight league !!!!!!!!!!!!

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3 hours ago, Burnie_man said:

This is the 2008-2009 Superleague table

EAST REGION SUPERLEAGUE Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic   22 12 5 5 40 28 12 41
2 Camelon Juniors   22 11 2 9 44 33 11 35
3 Linlithgow Rose   22 10 2 10 30 29 1 32
4 Whitburn Juniors   22 8 7 7 34 32 2 31
5 Kelty Hearts   22 8 6 8 39 31 8 30
6 Hill of Beath Hawthorn   22 9 3 10 30 32 -2 30
7 Glenrothes   22 8 6 8 28 43 -15 30
8 Bathgate Thistle   22 8 5 9 36 27 9 29
9 Lochee United   22 8 5 9 30 41 -11 29
10 Boness United   22 8 4 10 26 38 -12 28
11 Forfar West End   22 7 6 9 34 34 0 27
12 Tayport   22 7 5 10 26 29 -3 26

How many relegated then, was it two?

If so Linlithgow in 3rd were 3 points from 2nd, 9 points from the title and 5 points from relegation. They lost more games (joint most in the league) and scored fewer goals than Forfar West End, who went down, and their goal difference was only 1 better. That is one seriously tight league!

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7 hours ago, GordonS said:

How many relegated then, was it two?

If so Linlithgow in 3rd were 3 points from 2nd, 9 points from the title and 5 points from relegation. They lost more games (joint most in the league) and scored fewer goals than Forfar West End, who went down, and their goal difference was only 1 better. That is one seriously tight league!

Forfar and Tayport went down.

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12 hours ago, Burnie_man said:

This is the 2008-2009 Superleague table

EAST REGION SUPERLEAGUE Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic   22 12 5 5 40 28 12 41
2 Camelon Juniors   22 11 2 9 44 33 11 35
3 Linlithgow Rose   22 10 2 10 30 29 1 32
4 Whitburn Juniors   22 8 7 7 34 32 2 31
5 Kelty Hearts   22 8 6 8 39 31 8 30
6 Hill of Beath Hawthorn   22 9 3 10 30 32 -2 30
7 Glenrothes   22 8 6 8 28 43 -15 30
8 Bathgate Thistle   22 8 5 9 36 27 9 29
9 Lochee United   22 8 5 9 30 41 -11 29
10 Boness United   22 8 4 10 26 38 -12 28
11 Forfar West End   22 7 6 9 34 34 0 27
12 Tayport   22 7 5 10 26 29 -3 26

That was the year where bonnyrigg drew their last game at tayport. We beat linlithgow away 3-0 and we had 2 games to play to win the league and we lost 3-1 @ whitburn on a nice Thursday night before losing to hill o beath in the last game

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On 16/02/2020 at 19:30, FairWeatherFan said:

So there's Junior/Welfare/Amateuer/Saturday/Sunday/Summer/Winter that's a right gordian knot to merge into a unified structure.

Yes, a brand new topic, after this one reaches its conclusion.

Another 1,000+ posts, and no 'retirement' for burnie_man  and co !

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  • 2 weeks later...

For benefit of those who don't frequent the junior forum:

http://slfl.co.uk/west-of-scotland-league-update/



The latest update regarding the West of Scotland League

Following the passing of the date for clubs to note an interest in the proposed WoSFL, we can confirm that a total of 48 clubs from all grades have submitted emails thus far, asking to be kept informed of further developments. Clubs who have not noted their interest yet are still welcome to contact George Fraser geo_fraser @hotmail.co.uk to do so. This also does not preclude clubs from applying once more information is released.

We will now formalise the process and will contact all clubs concerned with further details.



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55 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:

 

Correct. No idea however on how the numbers breakdown. Guess would be:

 

Junior:38

SOS: 6

Other (ammies/youth): 4

 

The non junior applicants may scupper the West Juniors proposal to form their own mongrel league of a senior premier division and junior championship and below divisions. How would they be incorporated ? And could you force clubs who wish to be senior to become  junior 😐                                                    Come to that, ambitious clubs like Arthurlie, Darvel and Maryhill who have expressed an interest in being senior would all be forced to remain junior. 

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7 hours ago, GNU_Linux said:

 

Correct. No idea however on how the numbers breakdown. Guess would be:

 

Junior:38

SOS: 6

Other (ammies/youth): 4

 

As many as 10 non-WJFA applicants will kill the WJFA's plan (if it was ever alive). That's quite a large amount of clubs to accommodate and they can't just all be shoved into tier 9.

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  • 1 month later...

As this is a Pyramid forum, an update on the South of Scotland League would be helpful.

Does Bonnyton's 'transfer' to the West of Scotland League, mean that the SoSL will be reduced to 14 clubs in membership next season ?

The closing date for applications to the SoSL is stated as being 30th April 2020. Has anyone heard any rumours about possible new clubs ?

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