Jason King Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, gogsy said: Would the pub team juniors (Linlithgow, Bo'ness, Sauchie )be allowed in anyway if the real Linlithgow,Bo'ness,Sauchie are still in EOS set up next season? Doubt it - sure @HibeeJibee has said that if Stirling Uni were relegated from the LL then the reserve team would have to pull out of the EoS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jason King said: Maybe go away and look at how that was actually decided before throwing teams around all over the shop like you are messing with your Roy of the Rovers League Ladders. Yes the same reason they needed to have 18 teams in each side of the draw. Maybe we shouldn't bother and we will just be like the juniors in 20 years reluctant to change and it sounds like it's starting to set in already 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jason King said: Doubt it - sure @HibeeJibee has said that if Stirling Uni were relegated from the LL then the reserve team would have to pull out of the EoS Theyd likely be allowed in just wouldnt be able to be at the same level 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anychance Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 A premier -16 teams (3 up 3 down)league 1 - 15 teams (3up 3 down)league 2 - 12 plus any new teams joining eos (3up)League 1 made up from top 6 of both conferences and relegated premier teams * could add a 16th team to even the games out depending how many joined the eos next season The amount of cup games will pad out the season like this year I would be raging if I was the shippy etc who have spent a long time in the eos to have a junior team just jump right above them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: Yes the same reason they needed to have 18 teams in each side of the draw. Maybe we shouldn't bother and we will just be like the juniors in 20 years reluctant to change and it sounds like it's starting to set in already Alan yer teams been in the EOSFL for 5 mins and yer shouting aboot teams being reluctant to change If the remaining juniors aren't interested ye canny force them theres no a lot can be done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Che Dail Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 6 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said: I was having a drink today Were ye aye? It could be regionalised with enough teams in (west / East / South) but starting at the bottom tier. Tayport, Thornton(???), Fauldhouse, Pumpherston and Whitburn jumping a division or two isn't likely to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said: Theyd likely be allowed in just wouldnt be able to be at the same level HJ's point appears to be that you can't have a reserve team in the EoS, if you have a first team in it. That's only open to LL and SPFL clubs. Syngenta are clearly a fully separate club from Dunipace so no problem there. Less obviously that appears to probably be the case in Linlithgow and Bo'ness despite the similar names that are being used. Not sure about Sauchie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 HJ's point appears to be that you can't have a reserve team in the EoS, if you have a first team in it. That's only open to LL and SPFL clubs. Syngenta are clearly a fully separate club from Dunipace so no problem there. Less obviously that appears to probably be the case in Linlithgow and Bo'ness despite the similar names that are being used. Not sure about Sauchie.the two Bo'ness clubs are definatley linked if you look at social media & websites etc. Also unsure of how linked the Lithgae & Sauchie CFC's are 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I think Sauchie have used players in the EOS from the Junior club this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I think Sauchie have used players in the EOS from the Junior club this season.They have. Sauchie is definitely a reserve team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Jason King said: Doubt it - sure @HibeeJibee has said that if Stirling Uni were relegated from the LL then the reserve team would have to pull out of the EoS Current rules mean 1 club cannot have 2+ teams in EOSL... so as you say if Stirling Uni had a terrible season and got relegated to EOS Premier they couldn't keep side in EOS First Division as well. In theory they could find a way around it by forming "Stirling Students FC" or whatever with different committee members, but they would have to apply for membership like a new club. They would also have to release and resign players or only use them as trialists, not just move them around freely, but that's already the case with clubs running reserve teams in the Junior and Amateur grades. It's not entirely a new phenomenon... Spartans ran a reserve team in the old East Juniors for some years. There is nothing stopping a place or ground from having more than 1 club. There are many clubs in Edinburgh, 2 in Perth, and until recently LTHV/Tynecastle shared Saughton Enclosure. I always feel it's a bit unfair to cite Stirling Uni like this - they have never flirted with relegation from LL - but they illustrate it well being a singular anomaly, having kept-up their membership when LL began. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 10 hours ago, GNU_Linux said: the two Bo'ness clubs are definatley linked if you look at social media & websites etc.... The complication in Bo'ness is that Newtown Park belongs to the people of Bo'ness and is run through a not for profit association rather than by the EoS Bo'ness United club. That meant there was nothing Bo'ness United could do to stop an amateur club called Linlithgow Thistle (that had been run to a significant extent by people from Bo'ness) from moving in and setting up shop as a Bo'ness junior club, if the SJFA accepted them into membership. Happy to be corrected on this but my understanding is that although it is being made to look from the outside like it is all one big happy Bo'ness United family, they are two separate clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 When was the last PWG meeting? There doesn't seem to be any real progress for over a year. It can't be that difficult to set up a West of Scotland league. If the Juniors don't want to move en masse then set up a WofS league and asked for applications. Guaranteed some Juniors will apply and the rest can be filled by other amatuer leagues, like the Caledonian with teams like Glasgow and Strathclyde uni https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caledonian_Amateur_Football_League 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 The juniors do want to move en masse. The problem has been how to square that with the EoS already being there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: The juniors do want to move en masse. The problem has been how to square that with the EoS already being there. Interesting, any info to back this up ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 SFA big wigs attending the west juniors meeting tonight. Wonder what’s on the agenda.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: SFA big wigs attending the west juniors meeting tonight. Wonder what’s on the agenda.... Tea and biscuits followed by "does any of ewes want to manage Scotland?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Tea and biscuits followed by "does any of ewes want to manage Scotland?"What kind of biscuits? This is important information 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldie2k19 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: 1 hour ago, Jason King said: Tea and biscuits followed by "does any of ewes want to manage Scotland?" What kind of biscuits? This is important information Bourbon Creams most definetely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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