craigkillie Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 43 minutes ago, virginton said: What SFA 'achievements' could Maxwell feasibly point to in the last twelve months? That must have been the shortest introductory talk of all time. While it's clear enough that Maxwell is a puppet with Petrie's hand firmly up his rectum, even basic competence in the tasks allocated to him still seems entirely beyond that empty suit. He's a puppet, but I don't think Petrie is the one operating him. The two of them appear to be at odds and Maxwell seems to have been trying to undermine Petrie via Keith Jackson in recent weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, gogsy said: And of course the point where the Lowland League is sufficiently stronger will be when the SPFL clubs decide it is. I Is it fair to say that only loans from directors like yourself are the only reason that Cowdenbeath are still going as a club? I would expect that the SFA and Pyramid clubs would make a case for LL being sufficiently strong. And of course it's up to the SPFL clubs to decide whether they should change their rules to allow a change in that area. The SPFL clubs have that right - it would be a concession they would need to be persuaded was in their and the game's overall interest. Well like every club - each has its own method of funding - CFC was damaged by matters largely outwith its control. It wouldn't be fair to say what you are saying - there is a difference between 'still going' and 'still going as an SPFL club'. We could of course if we wished capitalise those loans and thus change the balance sheet equation. Many clubs in SPFL and outwith need third party funding. Some clubs of course have used creditors money and not paid it back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinderbrokeyourhearts Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Aye I think he stated in the past should be no automatic relegation from SPFL2 until the Lowland league gets stronger/more acceptable to teams falling out SPFL2. Not going to happen if clubs are being refused a licence is it? As you say self preservation (which in itself is understandable).I like the playoff for the reason that it'll give an indication that the league is strong enough when teams start winning that playoff. When it starts happening regularly then the should have a one up and down and then a playoff for another.That's exciting! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I like the playoff for the reason that it'll give an indication that the league is strong enough when teams start winning that playoff. When it starts happening regularly then the should have a one up and down and then a playoff for another.Will the premier division be adopting this policy too?Should Ross County be made to face a play off against Dundee just to prove they are good enough to go up?Or should it just be based on sporting merit like at every other level? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Clyde01 said: Will the premier division be adopting this policy too?Should Ross County be made to face a play off against Dundee just to prove they are good enough to go up? Or should it just be based on sporting merit like at every other level? YES THEY SHOULD. Oh who am I kidding, we'd f**k that up too. On the topic of auto relegation from SPFL2 I'd personally wait as well until non-league football is sorted out, but I'm all up for it when it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 What SFA 'achievements' could Maxwell feasibly point to in the last twelve months? That must have been the shortest introductory talk of all time. While it's clear enough that Maxwell is a puppet with Petrie's hand firmly up his rectum, even basic competence in the tasks allocated to him still seems entirely beyond that empty suit. The appointment of a visionary and successful national team manager.A strict liability policy leading to clubs being directly challenged on sectarianism and outrageous fan behaviour.A fair and transparent disciplinary process for all clubs.Oh no wait. . . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, gogsy said: Is it fair to say that only loans from directors like yourself are the only reason that Cowdenbeath are still going as a club? Why not? Cowden seem keen to copy "Rangers" in other ways too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinderbrokeyourhearts Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Will the premier division be adopting this policy too?Should Ross County be made to face a play off against Dundee just to prove they are good enough to go up?Or should it just be based on sporting merit like at every other level?No but you can't compare a full time team replacing a full time team with clubs who have only moved to a wider structure in that last couple of years.It's a big jump to the national leagues imo and the playoff will make sure that no club goes under by overstretching.Once the LL is established it will rival league 2 for crowds and budgets. Then those teams will be on a steadier financial footing and able to take on the challenge.That isn't the case just now imo and it's a huge culture change in that part of the world just now. No need to rush. Nurture it over the next decade and do it right and it'll enhance the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 One of the most disappointing things I take from that report in the North is just being left to do it’s own thing. No engagement, no selling on the pyramid to the NRJFA, nothing below the HL for the foreseeable. Nowhere for Fort William to drop down and no open door to Banks o Dee or Lochee. Agree this is disappointing. With no developments under the highland league looking imminent a possible solution is to raise the lowland boundary to include all of Perthshire and Tayside/Angus. These clubs could then form a ‘north’ feeder to the lowland league. Lowland league being fed by EOS, SOS, WOS and this new north section could work.As for banks o Dee they could apply for membership directly to the highland league if they wished. Would also be good to bring the NCL in under the highland league even if the north juniors don’t want involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Agree this is disappointing. With no developments under the highland league looking imminent a possible solution is to raise the lowland boundary to include all of Perthshire and Tayside/Angus. These clubs could then form a ‘north’ feeder to the lowland league. Lowland league being fed by EOS, SOS, WOS and this new north section could work. As for banks o Dee they could apply for membership directly to the highland league if they wished. Would also be good to bring the NCL in under the highland league even if the north juniors don’t want involved. LL would have to split East-West down the line in that scenario to maintain any semblance of balance with the HL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian44wood Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, Clyde01 said: Agree this is disappointing. With no developments under the highland league looking imminent a possible solution is to raise the lowland boundary to include all of Perthshire and Tayside/Angus. These clubs could then form a ‘north’ feeder to the lowland league. Lowland league being fed by EOS, SOS, WOS and this new north section could work. As for banks o Dee they could apply for membership directly to the highland league if they wished. Would also be good to bring the NCL in under the highland league even if the north juniors don’t want involved. Is there not enough feeders into the LL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, grinderbrokeyourhearts said: Once the LL is established it will rival league 2 for crowds and budgets. Then those teams will be on a steadier financial footing and able to take on the challenge. The LL was well and truly established long before you lot ! Funny how you want a piece of it now though ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Is there not enough feeders into the LL.You do understand why it’s called a pyramid and not a tower? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 You do understand why it’s called a pyramid and not a tower?He has a point though, ideally the Tayside and Angus clubs should really feed the HL to stop the LL being top heavy with clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Heid Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 The LL was well and truly established long before you lot ! Funny how you want a piece of it now though ? The LL was mainly started by opportunists. At least now it will start to develop as teams find their level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 He has a point though, ideally the Tayside and Angus clubs should really feed the HL to stop the LL being top heavy with clubs. Ideally yes but that doesn’t look likely unless someone can force the issue (which seems unlikely).The other issue is the inflated (imo) position of the SOS league. Not a par on quality with the EOS top flight or the WOS top flight once they come on board. Difficult to now bump them down a tier, perhaps a merger with WOS teams to allow teams to find their natural level would be better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Auld Heid said: The LL was mainly started by opportunists. At least now it will start to develop as teams find their level. Yours has been fast tracked though hows that finding a level when you've no even made the play offs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Heid Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Yours has been fast tracked though hows that finding a level when you've no even made the play offs [emoji14]Very true but we meet the other criteria.Criteria established clubs in the LL don't fully meet.But that's splitting hairs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Auld Heid said: Very true but we meet the other criteria. Criteria established clubs in the LL don't fully meet. But that's splitting hairs. #makingrulesupasgoalong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Let’s be honest, the only way the wee rose will go up a league will have nothing to do with their merits on the field. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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