woof! Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, craigkillie said: He was another player who didn't always make himself available though. Very rarely played in friendlies. Ferguson won 11 caps in friendlies across an 11 year international career. Fletcher has 28 caps in friendlies in his 14 years. Ferugson was on pain killers most of the second half of his career and had to manage his playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, woof! said: Ferugson was on pain killers most of the second half of his career and had to manage his playing time. It goes to explain his relative lack of caps though. Well, that plus the fact he ended up with a life ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy2015 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 In terms of performances in a Scotland jersey McFadden would be up there. 15 goals in 48 games and numerous assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The forward options for the squad look horrendous They do. One slight positive is that McBurnie has 3 in his last 2. He was painfully poor vs Portugal tho. Needs to improve massively if he's to stay in contention for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieD Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Need to play more to his strengths then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 10 hours ago, skippy2015 said: In terms of performances in a Scotland jersey McFadden would be up there. 15 goals in 48 games and numerous assists. He was (quite literally) dialing it in towards the end, though. That game when he was playing with his phone in the dugout springs to mind. Was it Lichtenstein? They won with a McManus header about five minutes into injury time, and McFadden could have made it plainer he couldn't give a damn. Just a horrible night all round, as I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 He was (quite literally) dialing it in towards the end, though. That game when he was playing with his phone in the dugout springs to mind. Was it Lichtenstein? They won with a McManus header about five minutes into injury time, and McFadden could have made it plainer he couldn't give a damn. Just a horrible night all round, as I recall.He dined out on the Paris goal for a few years, definitely. But dialling it in, no way. Watch the footage when he scored at home vs Macedonia in 2009 and tell me he didn't give a damn. In the Liechtenstein game he was taken off at half time IIRC and there was a big spat about Levein using that game to 'show up' him and Boyd. I imagine that had a lot to do with sulking on his phone in the dugout. Truth was he was shite in that game and admitted as much later on. And everything he has said since becoming part of the backroom setup indicates he is fiercely proud of his time as a Scotland player and full of regrets that it ended early. I think a fairer way of putting it is that McFadden was very lucky up till about 2007, playing out of his skin for Scotland while not really doing much at club level. Thereafter he was mediocre for club and country. Sulky and petulant at times throughout, but never could he be classed as disinterested (like a Matteo or Bardsley) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig McCulloch Burley Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 McGregor O'Donnell McKenna Devlin Roberston Cairney McGregor Fraser Armstrong Forrest Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 We'd kill for a guy like McFadden just now. Not only has only 1 man scored more goals than him for Scotland since since the turn of the century (Kenny Miller, and the guy above, Ally McCoist, scored his last Scotland goal in 1996 and only scored 4 more than McFadden), he's also the (joint) 7th top goalscorer for the national team in their entire history. He could also get goals from nothing, such as the goal in Paris, the goal at Hampden vs Lithuania and the goal at Hampden vs Macedonia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Are we getting the squad today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 On 03/11/2018 at 13:24, woof! said: Ferugson was on pain killers most of the second half of his career and had to manage his playing time. Darren Fletcher had to stop playing for about 2 years to try and sort out his health problems and still managed more than wee Barry. Fletcher was everything you'd hope for from a Scotland player, attitude second to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Never had a good game for Scotland M9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Not getting the squad till tomorrow apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 There's a game of 5s up at Powerleague tonight, McLeish thinks he might find another forward there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Snake Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 They need an extra day to phone round the players and make sure they’d rather play for Scotland than do some extra fitness training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, forameus said: There's a game of 5s up at Powerleague tonight, McLeish thinks he might find another forward there. [Insert Kenneth Williams gif here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Goalkeepers Craig Gordon (Celtic) Allan McGregor (Rangers) Jon McLaughlin (Sunderland) Defenders David Bates (Hamburg) Liam Cooper (Leeds United) Michael Devlin (Aberdeen) Barry Douglas (Leeds United) Scott McKenna (Aberdeen) Charlie Mulgrew (Blackburn Rovers) Stephen O'Donnell (Kilmarnock) Andrew Robertson (Liverpool) Kieran Tierney (Celtic) Midfielders Graeme Shinnie (Aberdeen) Callum McGregor (Celtic) Ryan Christie (Celtic) Ryan Fraser (Bournemouth) Stuart Armstrong (Southampton) John McGinn (Aston Villa) Gary Mackay-Steven (Aberdeen) James Forrest (Celtic) Attackers Oliver McBurnie (Swansea City) Johnny Russell (Sporting Kansas City) Jordan Rhodes (Norwich City) Honestly got bored half way through doing that so stopped caring enough to check who was actually injured and who would probably snub a call up. Also got a bit depressed at all our current injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, LiviLion said: Goalkeepers Craig Gordon (Celtic) Allan McGregor (Rangers) Jon McLaughlin (Sunderland) Defenders David Bates (Hamburg) Liam Cooper (Leeds United) Michael Devlin (Aberdeen) Barry Douglas (Leeds United) Scott McKenna (Aberdeen) Charlie Mulgrew (Blackburn Rovers) Stephen O'Donnell (Kilmarnock) Andrew Robertson (Liverpool) Kieran Tierney (Celtic) Midfielders Graeme Shinnie (Aberdeen) Callum McGregor (Celtic) Ryan Christie (Celtic) Ryan Fraser (Bournemouth) Stuart Armstrong (Southampton) John McGinn (Aston Villa) Gary Mackay-Steven (Aberdeen) James Forrest (Celtic) Attackers Oliver McBurnie (Swansea City) Johnny Russell (Sporting Kansas City) Jordan Rhodes (Norwich City) Honestly got bored half way through doing that so stopped caring enough to check who was actually injured and who would probably snub a call up. Also got a bit depressed at all our current injuries Time for Liam Henderson and Jack Harper to be called up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Eoin Doyle said: Time for Liam Henderson and Jack Harper to be called up. Actually completely forgot about Henderson, Harper is apparently injured for another couple of weeks though which is typical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Is McGregor worth a punt at holding midfield instead of the much maligned McDonald? He's shown recently that he can play there, but I still feel that he's too good higher up to play him deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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