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13 hours ago, Tutankhamen said:

Straight to band practise?

You may also not be aware that the Club were almost called Larkhall Celtic, Thistle won on a 3-2 vote. Note this was 10 years before the formation of Celtic. 3 names were propsed- Caledonian, Celtic and Thistle.

Never noticed Sans post before putting this up- however, not sure regarding his explanation as I understand that the names proposed were to exhibit a Scottish identity, and those famous Red and White colours chosen to represent the strong socialist convictions of the community.

I did the piece for Jim O Donnells  summary in the ET some twenty -five years ago.

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On 8 March 2020 at 10:30, larkyforever said:

You may also not be aware that the Club were almost called Larkhall Celtic, Thistle won on a 3-2 vote. Note this was 10 years before the formation of Celtic. 3 names were propsed- Caledonian, Celtic and Thistle.

Never noticed Sans post before putting this up- however, not sure regarding his explanation as I understand that the names proposed were to exhibit a Scottish identity, and those famous Red and White colours chosen to represent the strong socialist convictions of the community.

I did the piece for Jim O Donnells  summary in the ET some twenty -five years ago.

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I notice you've put the Larkhall Celtic story on here more than once. The name Celtic in itself doesn make something Green/Irishy. Queens Park looked at calling themselves The Celts in the early days.

I think you've got the story back to front.

Had Larkhall Thistle called themselves Larkhall Celtic what difference would it have made?

Would Brother Walfrid have dropped using the name Celtic because there's was a team in Larkhall using the name? He already started a previous team called Partick Celtic.

You seem to be very touchy on what was only banter on my part. Personally i never knew why Larkhall got it's redneck image. It could just have easily applied to a lot of towns and villages in the Central Belt.

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1 hour ago, Tutankhamen said:

I notice you've put the Larkhall Celtic story on here more than once. The name Celtic in itself doesn make something Green/Irishy. Queens Park looked at calling themselves The Celts in the early days.

I think you've got the story back to front.

Had Larkhall Thistle called themselves Larkhall Celtic what difference would it have made?

Would Brother Walfrid have dropped using the name Celtic because there's was a team in Larkhall using the name? He already started a previous team called Partick Celtic.

You seem to be very touchy on what was only banter on my part. Personally i never knew why Larkhall got it's redneck image. It could just have easily applied to a lot of towns and villages in the Central Belt.

Youre mixing me up with San the man, I think,,,,,

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2 hours ago, gogsy said:

Arthurlie was 1874. I remember reading an article somewhere that the senior  Arthurlie team that resigned from the second division was a different one from the current Arthurlie team that started in the intermediate league in 1930-31 season. Is also mentioned on a post here. (2nd paragraph from RobertR post)

http://www.scottishleague.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4898&p=28998&hilit=arthurlie#p28998

Looks like its the blueprint for Sevco 80 years later.

 

Sorry it was 1874.

A couple of teams who claim 1873 VOC and one other whose name escapes me but no historical evidence that Im aware of that backs their claims up so still sticking with Arthurlie as the oldest team and Larkhall as the oldest Junior team although RobRoy were also founded in 1878 but no-one seems to know the exact date

 

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a fantastic resource 

https://www.scottishjuniorfa.com/scottish-junior-fa/history/scottish-junior-portfolio/

very difficult to ascertain who exactly is the oldest current junior club or ex junior soon to be non league club.  so long ago,  so many gaps in clubs histories and so many different scenarios played out back in the 1870s and 1880s. 

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29 minutes ago, JockB said:

a fantastic resource 

https://www.scottishjuniorfa.com/scottish-junior-fa/history/scottish-junior-portfolio/

very difficult to ascertain who exactly is the oldest current junior club or ex junior soon to be non league club.  so long ago,  so many gaps in clubs histories and so many different scenarios played out back in the 1870s and 1880s. 

Think part of the problem was that there were a lot of pit teams (certainly in this area)who were formed in the early 1870’s by the miners  and only played friendlies against other pits so there was no record of these teams/games as there was no league set up as such.

 

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On ‎10‎/‎03‎/‎2020 at 00:11, santheman said:

Sorry it was 1874.

A couple of teams who claim 1873 VOC and one other whose name escapes me but no historical evidence that Im aware of that backs their claims up so still sticking with Arthurlie as the oldest team and Larkhall as the oldest Junior team although RobRoy were also founded in 1878 but no-one seems to know the exact date

 

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