BB_Bino Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Nah I mean a player is released from Club A (say at the start of November) and signs for Club B as an amateur. Can they put him on a professional contract and start paying him come January, or must he remain as an amateur? Ah, sorry mate, picked you up wrong. Yip, as Ammo has said above, you can do that and it’s something we will no doubt look at doing with Mackin.I’m actually trying to think of an example of this happening previously and I can’t off the top of my head, but I know it has been spoken about regarding Mackin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 7 hours ago, ++Ammo - Airdrie++ said: 14 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Nah I mean a player is released from Club A (say at the start of November) and signs for Club B as an amateur. Can they put him on a professional contract and start paying him come January, or must he remain as an amateur? Im sure the club can sign him on a professional deal as soon as the window opens, as Stirling will probably do with Mackin in January. 1 hour ago, BB_Bino said: Ah, sorry mate, picked you up wrong. Yip, as Ammo has said above, you can do that and it’s something we will no doubt look at doing with Mackin. I’m actually trying to think of an example of this happening previously and I can’t off the top of my head, but I know it has been spoken about regarding Mackin. Presumably clubs can therefore also pay a player 150% of their is ostensible worth for January to April, to make-up for having to treat them like an amateur in November & December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
++Ammo - Airdrie++ Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Presumably clubs can therefore also pay a player 150% of their is ostensible worth for January to April, to make-up for having to treat them like an amateur in November & December?This I have absolutely no idea about. But I dare say anyone signed as an "amateur" won't have to worry about their "wages" until actually signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB_Bino Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Presumably clubs can therefore also pay a player 150% of their is ostensible worth for January to April, to make-up for having to treat them like an amateur in November & December? I presume they can, as long as it fits in with financial FairPlay guidelines. I’m not saying it is happening but I’m sure it could be done by club boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Presumably clubs can therefore also pay a player 150% of their is ostensible worth for January to April, to make-up for having to treat them like an amateur in November & December?The could just use the QP ‘travelling expenses’ model whilst the player is an amateur. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WC Boggs Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) On 13/11/2018 at 22:01, HibeeJibee said: Out of interest can you take a player you released outside the window and signed as an amateur, and convert them into a professional during a window? Yes you can. Edited November 16, 2018 by WC Boggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcar Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Can't remember which thread it was on but a few weeks ago I said we had 5 winnable games in a row. We won 3, and lost the other 2 (at least in part) due to getting 3 sent off at home to Beath and their resulting suspensions. We now have a run of more difficult games, but Johnny Harvey, and the end of the Boardroom wars, has really lifted the spirits at the club. Happi days (geddit? ) at Berwick just now. 537 there yesterday to witness a good win, and what a difference it makes to see the manager lead his team over to the ducket for mutual applause at the end. Any extra info from anyone about our new signing Mr. Happi, will be most welcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Believer Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I feel refreshing optimism for the club with recent results, and particularly with the messages of glasnost across the various boards. Fantastic; truly. Let's also please keep positive perspective next week, when no trialists will be available; all will certainly not be lost if we don't prevail. But hey, who knows, we're on a roll!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Potato Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Players can be signed on amateur contracts but only 30 days after their last professional match. The "Penicuik Three" can't be registered until early December. Then from the 1st of Jan, they can revert back to a professional contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougster Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 'Len Eyre also said that the Board is considering moving the football club from being a public limited company to a community interest company. Another guest, Supporters Club chairman Bill Parkin, also spoke on this theme, acknowledging that such a move would have to be endorsed by a majority of shareholders.' This is an interesting snippet from the Trust meeting on Saturday, thoughts anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey Blue Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Not a Berwick fan as such but they are the nearest club to where I live so pop along to support them every so often. Was there Saturday with my son and really enjoyed the match. There was a really good atmosphere and if Johnny Harvey (who really impresses me) can continue to improve things I can see attendances improving and the feel good factor growing greater. I think Harvey has huge ambitions and knocking around the bottom is not for him. Berwick fans should be excited. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Believer Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 'Len Eyre also said that the Board is considering moving the football club from being a public limited company to a community interest company. Another guest, Supporters Club chairman Bill Parkin, also spoke on this theme, acknowledging that such a move would have to be endorsed by a majority of shareholders.' This is an interesting snippet from the Trust meeting on Saturday, thoughts anyone? Without knowing the full rationale, anything strengthening bonds with local families and encouraging more people to support, and even develop to play for the club, sounds like a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcar Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, A Believer said: On 19/11/2018 at 13:33, dougster said: 'Len Eyre also said that the Board is considering moving the football club from being a public limited company to a community interest company. Another guest, Supporters Club chairman Bill Parkin, also spoke on this theme, acknowledging that such a move would have to be endorsed by a majority of shareholders.' This is an interesting snippet from the Trust meeting on Saturday, thoughts anyone? Without knowing the full rationale, anything strengthening bonds with local families and encouraging more people to support, and even develop to play for the club, sounds like a good thing. Need more info, but sounds good in theory. A club run for the community it serves rather than (nominally) its shareholders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougster Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Redcar said: Need more info, but sounds good in theory. A club run for the community it serves rather than (nominally) its shareholders. That was my next question would the shareholders be willing to effectively give their shares away, Im not too fussed but do they get bought out? Im thinking major shareholders not us minnows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Believer Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 That was my next question would the shareholders be willing to effectively give their shares away, Im not too fussed but do they get bought out? Im thinking major shareholders not us minnowsI think it's the share dividends that are reinvested in the CIC, rather than relinquishing the actual shares. I'm not sure to many holidays are planned based on BRFC dividend return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcar Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 46 minutes ago, dougster said: That was my next question would the shareholders be willing to effectively give their shares away, Im not too fussed but do they get bought out? Im thinking major shareholders not us minnows I had a look on Wiki and glazed over after a few minutes. You can still have shareholders in a CIC, but profit doesn't go their way. (So, not sure what they get out of it to be honest. Perhaps just voting rights for a cause they believe in, and the occasional prawn sandwich). Profit at this level, of course, is a purely theoretical concept. Unless we beat East Fife and get drawn at home to Celtic, live on Sky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Cedwyn Scott punted back to us. Just not good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Cedwyn Scott punted back to us. Just not good enough?Probably attitude or he didn’t want to be here as he looked pretty decent when playing imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edthebaw Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Not a Berwick fan as such but they are the nearest club to where I live so pop along to support them every so often. Was there Saturday with my son and really enjoyed the match. There was a really good atmosphere and if Johnny Harvey (who really impresses me) can continue to improve things I can see attendances improving and the feel good factor growing greater. I think Harvey has huge ambitions and knocking around the bottom is not for him. Berwick fans should be excited. Cheers Mr Harvey, brother Harvey [emoji104] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Great second half performance today. Things are certainly heading in the right direction. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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