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I think the way Phillips celebrated first and second goals tell you what he thinks of our current manager! I would imagine these thoughts are shared even amongst current players. The w****r is putting his relationship/spats with players before our very existence. I can guarantee Wilson and Brennan weren’t injured and brown is probably our best player at the moment. I think that’s clear example of current dressing room unrest. Also was a big fan of Barr when he arrived but he hasn’t kicked a ball for weeks, hopefully he can find that form again next 3 weeks. 
Apparantly Phillip's had a falling out with Harvey and headed a list of players told they could leave in January, Phillip's sorted a deal with rovers, when Harvey found out he started demanding a fee from rovers who told him no, Phillip's told Harvey he would be going to the pfa (hebwas the pfa rep at berwick) if he wasnt allowed to join rovers on a free Harvey had to relinquish

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I'm pretty sure 'deluded' is the last thing you could call Berwick fans at the moment; we've all been realistic about the position the club is in, and aware of the downward curve the club had been on a while. If you go back to the first two pages you'll find a post or two that mention being chuffed if we got 8th or 9th this season.

No one could have foreseen a run of form quite like the one we are on right now (7 points from 66 if I recall correctly), delusion it is not.

Also, if what @Chris_the_rover says is true (and I have no reason to doubt him), we have another piece of evidence pointing towards Johnny Harvey not being cut out for management in League football (or LL football for that matter).

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On 29/04/2019 at 17:25, Bring Your Own Socks said:

Well at least we know how this OF Colts pish started then. Shocker!

To be fair to Stranraer, it's not really a reserve team - it's for local (mostly young) players. Almost no movement between the sides bar the very occasional stint on the bench for some kids. Annan operate a similar set-up but the standard of their side is woefully weak.

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9 hours ago, big al said:

Obviously we have survived the play off, and believe me there’s no celebrations. 

Horrible games to watch.

I was at the Montrose v Brora game in 2015 and there were huge celebrations at the end when Montrose won.

Maybe it was the novelty of the first playoff, maybe it was the come from behind nature with Garry Wood scoring a cracker and big Marv popping up when required.

I just couldn't see anything to celebrate if Berwick won this year.

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Your all deluding yourselves with your "we own the club attitude" its almost, but not quite sunk, your only chance is very faint, in that you might win the play-offs. most on here are trust members, who think they are the only ones who control the club and back the incoming chairman, even after the manager he signed has been shite, the reality is that in a couple of weeks you'll reap what you sow, Lowland League and the demise of a once great club. Good Job Guys!!

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30 minutes ago, mid-table said:

I was at the Montrose v Brora game in 2015 and there were huge celebrations at the end when Montrose won.

Maybe it was the novelty of the first playoff, maybe it was the come from behind nature with Garry Wood scoring a cracker and big Marv popping up when required.

I just couldn't see anything to celebrate if Berwick won this year.

You want to celebrate and then you realise you haven't won anything and then you feel a bit sorry for the other team. It's more relief than anything else.

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48 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

Should you laugh or cry  ?

*snip*

I'm pleased, I rate all four boys with the addendum that Rose has had some bad luck this season.

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I was at the Montrose v Brora game in 2015 and there were huge celebrations at the end when Montrose won.
Maybe it was the novelty of the first playoff, maybe it was the come from behind nature with Garry Wood scoring a cracker and big Marv popping up when required.
I just couldn't see anything to celebrate if Berwick won this year.
Think is was the nature of the win. Garry Woods screamer coming as we were settling down after Marvs header. 15 minutes from Highland League.
Went on the pitch at the end in a state of euphoria but reality struck a minute later and felt deflated.

It doesn't need me to say that this Berwick team and board is in a bigger state of disarray than any of the 3 other SPFL teams that have been present in the playoffs. And your club are seemingly doing f**k all about it.

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I didn't think the season could get worse, but then here we are with a literal shite-themed poster showing up. Lovely.

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21 hours ago, newcastle broon said:

Should you laugh or cry  ?

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Cry I’m afraid. Although cook has came on leaps and bounds this season and I’m happy with the resigning of him. No disrespect but if we are starting the rebuild with the other 3 lads we will be lucky to finish mid table in the lowland league next season. 

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On 4/30/2019 at 13:41, Redcar said:

Berwick Mad and Dougster both make plausible arguments, but I'm not wholly convinced that the current board should be so tightly linked to the slow demise of the past 5 years. No wait, hear me out.... 

True, the vessel has been leaking for years but the plug really came out last summer with that pathetic attempted coup and the associated tying of Robbie Horn's hands behind his back. The response to that was - most agreed at the time - a huge relief, with the supporters organisations stepping up to make it happen. It did for Robbie though, and we had a shit team as a result, so again most were happy to get a new manager with a better budget and wait to applaud the results. 

But that is where the criticism of the new Board really begins. Seduced by Harvey's enthusiasm and his record in lower leagues, they went for inexperience. Once again there were only a few raised eyebrows at the time but since then it has been a horror show of inadequacy with a series of crap signings, desperately poor loan signings and gruesome results. The Board's biggest error was to fail to admit they got it wrong, and sack him many weeks ago. 

Now we are reduced to announcing 4 signings for next year in a desperate attempt to show that the players don't all hate the gaffer. 

So, for me, criticism of the Board comes down to one big mistake. I can't really link it to past years or even current overall strategy. Took years to sink, so it will take years to get it right again too, and their desire and ability go change the club culture has barely begun. Just a pity they cocked up big style with the current boss. If we were getting close in games I'd defend them for sticking by their man, but getting relentlessly hammered and not doing anything about whilst hovering over the trapdoor is just baffling. 

 

We've drifted into this position over the years. The club has suffered from apathy/lethargy and has been happy to just drift along milking the same old people for money over and over again, rather than going out and promoting the club to a new audience and new backers. Somebody said recently that the club didn't know how many of the advertising boards around the ground were paid up for this season (i.e., there were some that had been put up and paid for at one point, but nobody had ever bothered to chase up payment for all of the following years). That's a pretty sad indictment of the board.

While we've been drifting, especially in the last couple of years, other clubs have woken up to what's going on elsewhere (especially around the Lowland and Highland leagues) and got off their backsides and done something about it. They realised that even at our level you need money, and they found a way to bring in more money. At Berwick, though, the old board decided that we should live within our means (rather than calculate how much money we needed and then work out how to go about  raising it). Hence the cut in the playing budget, supported by those in the failed coup. I still don't know what their plan was, apart from cutting costs...

Robbie Horn tried and failed, but he had both hands tied behind his back by the board; Harvey has tried and failed with one hand tied behind his back, although it's also clear that he's just not up to the task at this point in his career. If all the gossip is true, his man management skills appear questionable, and he doesn't have the contacts (or the goodwill) to bring in quality players from good clubs on loan. Even Robbie brought in players from Hibs, Hearts and Rangers. Most of Johnny's loan players have either been bench-warmers or sent back after a few weeks, and as for bringing in Cowden's third choice keeper and paying him more than Brennan... :angry: If the club persists in sticking with Harvey after we go down--I can't see any way we can stay up--I can only see things getting worse in the coming season, and it's going to get harder to raise funds (and get promoted) as things get even more competitive.

 

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I didn't think the season could get worse, but then here we are with a literal shite-themed poster showing up. Lovely.
With all due respect

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5 minutes ago, fowler23 said:

Harvey away then??

Hearing this also with John Brownlie appointed and Yano his assistant :shutup

 

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heard the same

 

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A guy who’s not been in the game for about 15 years and is knocking on 70. Lock the doors folks were are going down.

Is big Jim Rowan Brownlie’s agent, if not he must be the clubs next majority shareholder surely?

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Astounded. 

Colin Hallett must only be 5/4 for the next manager with these clowns in charge.

Welcome back Yano, give it your best bud. 

 

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