Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 One dubious decision can easily cost a club the League title 'eg in an end of season deciding game. Lotteries involve luck - taking penalties and saving them requires skill. Two entirely different things because if taking penalties is a lottery why did they do away with tossing a coin to decide? Generally in two legged games the best team wins - a play off isn't like a one match Cup final you get a second chance to get the right overall result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, The_Judge said: With respect, you ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY would With less respect - afraid I wouldn't - C'est la vie, que sera sera and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: No if you're last you have had a poor season and you are penalised appropriately by whatever the rules say. The LL/HL signed up to those rules and were grateful that the SPFL clubs agreed to such an arrangement as before they had little or no chance of getting into the SPFL. If they can strengthen the LL/HL over time in terms of clubs, finance, sponsors, etc., then they can try and negotiate a change in the arrangements with some basis. Signing up to one agreement doesn't bar you from negotiating for further progress. The club's below the SPFL have had to improve facilities to the point they now have more appropriate grounds than the existing SPFL clubs. In terms of sponsorship the SPFL have hoovered up all the bookies and pawn shops. Maybe the non-leagues could look towards the security and tanning businesses before the SPFL get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Yes so what are they offering the SPFL clubs to get this major concession via negotiations. They have to persuade SPFL clubs to vote any change through - your comment re non SPFL grounds being more appropriate than those of the existing SPFL clubs is nonsense. The 42 SPFL grounds are on average miles ahead - you can criticise Central Park but I have been to K-Park! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternapper Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: If you're last you've had a shite season and shouldn't have a second chance to stay up. You win the division below, you deserve promotion, with no added hurdles. The only problem would be you would have two champions from the leagues below so there would have to be a play-off of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Yes so what are they offering the SPFL clubs to get this major concession via negotiations. They have to persuade SPFL clubs to vote any change through - your comment re non SPFL grounds being more appropriate than those of the existing SPFL clubs is nonsense. The 42 SPFL grounds are on average miles ahead - you can criticise Central Park but I have been to K-Park! I didn't say they were ideal, but they are being held to a higher standard than existing members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, peternapper said: The only problem would be you would have two champions from the leagues below so there would have to be a play-off of some sort. A feature demanded by the SPFL. A flexible boundary and league\division adjustment would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 The SPFL had no relegation - they then generously agree to give other teams the opportunity to gain admittance That’s kind of how a pyramid system works, you make it sound like an act of charity.There should be no need to prove you are better than the bottom side. That doesn’t happen in any other league I can think of. Bottom deserves to be relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I didn't say they were ideal, but they are being held to a higher standard than existing members. No idea what you are talking about - Licensing standards are the same across the game - SPFL clubs are all at entry, bronze, silver, gold, platinum levels. There is no higher standard to be achieved outwith the SPFL they are graded exactly the same in terms of facilities and other licensing aspects. Indeed there are extra SPFL requirements beyond the license level including floodlights 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Just now, Clyde01 said: That’s kind of how a pyramid system works, you make it sound like an act of charity. There should be no need to prove you are better than the bottom side. That doesn’t happen in any other league I can think of. Bottom deserves to be relegated. Yes once a League has shown that it truly represents the strongest clubs below the bottom of the SPFL. The Lowland League didn't meet that requirement and the Highland League has many clubs not that interested in being in SPFL. The Pyramid is not yet strong enough below SPFL to warrant further concession as yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: A feature demanded by the SPFL. A flexible boundary and league\division adjustment would help. So you are suggesting a National League 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cowden Cowboy said: No idea what you are talking about - Licensing standards are the same across the game - SPFL clubs are all at entry, bronze, silver, gold, platinum levels. There is no higher standard to be achieved outwith the SPFL they are graded exactly the same in terms of facilities and other licensing aspects. Indeed there are extra SPFL requirements beyond the license level including floodli Albion Rivers, Cliftonhill is clearly not of an acceptable standard as it is. It is clear that the standards aren't uniformly applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Just now, gogsy said: They' just brought in a goalkeeper on an emergency loan as well, but that's ok because allowed You trot out this bollocks time and time again, who makes the decision that these leagues will have to be further strengthened? Nobody - but otherwise they wont get any change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cowden Cowboy said: So you are suggesting a National League 5 Clearly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Just now, Sergeant Wilson said: Albion Rivers, Cliftonhill is clearly not of an acceptable standard as it is. It is clear that the standards aren't uniformly applied. Clearly in what specific areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Clearly in what specific areas? I that I never suggested it. Maybe two down would be more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I that I never suggested it. Maybe two down would be more appropriate. Clearly, you are providing the grasp of detail and insight of a no-deal brexiteer - away and watch the Scotland game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, gogsy said: They' just brought in a goalkeeper on an emergency loan as well, but that's ok because allowed Well yes - quite happy if LL/HL clubs want to operate under SPFL loan and transfer rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Albion Rivers, Cliftonhill is clearly not of an acceptable standard as it is. It is clear that the standards aren't uniformly applied. Cliftonhill isn't the best but must tick the boxes somewhere it may replace by K-Park which isn't much better from a spectators point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Brazil Forever Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Clearly, you are providing the grasp of detail and insight of a no-deal brexiteer - away and watch the Scotland game Careful. Surely you are not a Remainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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