ExiledSaint Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Given what happened recently with the omission of Jason Kerr from the U21's squad (as well as the ridiculous reasoning behind it), I got to thinking about the St Johnstone players that were either ignored by the Scotland manager when they were in contention, or even worse, ended up getting capped within a very short time of leaving Saints. Yes there's maybe a few sides that can claim a similar thing, but as Saints are my team I looked into it. Over the last 30 years or so Billy Dodds, Stevie May, Callum Davidson, Paul Wright, and John O'Neil were all capped within a year of leaving St Johnstone (Scotland B cap in Wright's case). Ally McCoist was a bit further back and was about 3 years, but he was good enough at the time to get in the squad. John Inglis, Dave Mackay, Steven Anderson, Allan Preston, Steven Milne, Allan Moore and Alan Main were all overlooked despite all arguably being viable options at the time. Murray Davidson has a single cap in 2012. It's tinfoil hat stuff I know, but I can't help but feel that if any of the above players had played for Aberdeen or Hearts for example then they would have been capped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 #perthshire 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 A big problem is most of the players you listed never were good enough to play for Scotland. I mean... neither was Darren Barr but two wrongs don't make a right 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 It's tinfoil hat stuff I know, but I can't help but feel that if any of the above players had played for Aberdeen or Hearts for example then they would have been capped.Perhaps if they had been better players they would have played for Aberdeen or Hearts. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Wullie Broon should have been capped for Scotland. Alan McInally was the poor man's Wullie Broon! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Machina Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Completely correct to be outraged, I for one am appalled Laurie Ellis, Mark Campbell and Dave McGurn were never capped. If only they played for Celtic or Liverpool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Always thought it was Aberdeen fans who were most deluded about this with constant calls to play the decidedly average Reynolds, but this is one notch up. Most of that list are/were gubbins and nowhere near the standard to warrant a cap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Tbf May's the one that irks me. Scored over 20 goals for us without a mention of a call up, goes to Sheffield Wednesday and is instantly in contention despite getting four goals all season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 10 hours ago, ExiledSaint said: John Inglis, Dave Mackay, Steven Anderson, Allan Preston, Steven Milne, Allan Moore and Alan Main 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewing Taffies Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 11 hours ago, ExiledSaint said: John Inglis, Dave Mackay, Steven Anderson, Allan Preston, Steven Milne, Allan Moore and Alan Main were all overlooked despite all arguably being viable options at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 What is it with these entitled teuchter teams, is it cause you're in the middle of nowhere so have no basis for perspective? Steven Milne and Dave Mackay hahahahaha -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 11 hours ago, ExiledSaint said: Given what happened recently with the omission of Jason Kerr from the U21's squad (as well as the ridiculous reasoning behind it), I got to thinking about the St Johnstone players that were either ignored by the Scotland manager when they were in contention, or even worse, ended up getting capped within a very short time of leaving Saints. Yes there's maybe a few sides that can claim a similar thing, but as Saints are my team I looked into it. Over the last 30 years or so Billy Dodds, Stevie May, Callum Davidson, Paul Wright, and John O'Neil were all capped within a year of leaving St Johnstone (Scotland B cap in Wright's case). Ally McCoist was a bit further back and was about 3 years, but he was good enough at the time to get in the squad. John Inglis, Dave Mackay, Steven Anderson, Allan Preston, Steven Milne, Allan Moore and Alan Main were all overlooked despite all arguably being viable options at the time. Murray Davidson has a single cap in 2012. It's tinfoil hat stuff I know, but I can't help but feel that if any of the above players had played for Aberdeen or Hearts for example then they would have been capped. You drunk m8? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Did Steven Milne even score for us in the top flight? He was decent for us in the first division but I don't think he did much for us after we won promotion. I don't think he was anywhere near the standard required for a call up to be honest. Stevie May is the only one from that list who definitely should've gotten a cap during his golden season and probably would've done under a different manager, but I'd struggle to make much of an argument for the rest given the other options at the time, aside from the ones mentioned from the late 80s/early 90s as I'm a bit young to know the landscape from then or to comment on their ability. I always thought the 'Biscuits for Scotland' campaign was done ironically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) Ffs, fair enough with the lads who got caps after leaving saints as well as Dave Mackay, he should've been in at least a couple of squads. The rest? Not for me. Edited September 27, 2018 by tree house tam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Fae The YY Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 If Allan Preston was ever given a cap we would have been as well disbanding the national team 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I've always thought Perth should have it's own national team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I think there’s an anti-St Johnstone agenda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, ali_91 said: Steven Milne. Do me a favour. ACAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I always thought Peter Enckelman should have had a call up. Good pedigree and would have been a decent option for the squad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Alan Main made the squad a few times but had the likes of Andy Goram, Jim Leighton, Neil Sullivan, Jon Gould, Craig Gordon, Rab Douglas ahead of him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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