Jimmy Gentles Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 So now the scotland team will remain at hampden and queens park will play out of lesser hampden as of 2020 the question is shall this put an end to the pretty much constant snapping up of junior players by QP? Theyve always been able to dangle a large carrot at junior players to play at hampden every second week and its excellent pitch , just wondering if loads of junior players will see lesser hampden as an attraction .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior_Arab Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 It may have been an additional temptation, but I’m sure the chance to play in the pro leagues was always the main attraction. And I’m sure even lesser Hampden knocks the spots off most junior set ups. Plus the deal also leaves the club with several million pounds burning a hole in their pockets and the opportunity to pay pretty lavish “expenses” to any new recruits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Don't think it will make a blind bit of difference myself. Was the lure of playing for QPFC ever about the big pitch ? In most cases, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Just now, Junior_Arab said: It may have been an additional temptation, but I’m sure the chance to play in the pro leagues was always the main attraction. And I’m sure even lesser Hampden knocks the spots off most junior set ups. Plus the deal also leaves the club with several million pounds burning a hole in their pockets and the opportunity to pay pretty lavish “expenses” to any new recruits... I'd be amazed if they ever spent any of that money on operating costs; they're about to lose the rental income from Hampden, for ever. They've tended to be good with money and I suspect they'll keep that as capital for the future. They recently rebuilt their offices and Lesser Hampden is in good nick since the Commonwealth Games, so they really have no need to spend that cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Since its redevelopment I don't think the chance of playing at Hampden's got the same cachet it did in the past. I've been to QP games there, and with 500-odd folk rattling about the one section they open it makes for a fairly atmosphere-free experience. I reckon the chance to test themselves playing senior football was always the main attraction for Junior players going to QP and with a lot more senior clubs in the mix to join now - probably a number that will increase next season too - that's where the main talent drain's going to come from in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfempty65 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Talbot Park is better surface than you’ll find at any pro club in Scotland .. magnificent pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gentles Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Personally i think playing at hampden every second week would have been a big attraction albeit to an almost empty stadium and it would beat most junior experiences pitch wise and setup wise obviously.QP couldnt pay wages and hampden was a charming asset for me when it came to taking our junior boys almost constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gentles Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Halfempty65 said: Talbot Park is better surface than you’ll find at any pro club in Scotland .. magnificent pitch No its not thats nonsense . Its not even as good as cappielow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Yup...absolutely correct Hillonearth. And no player has ever come back worse after a stint at QP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 If it's a license-level facility with a decent pitch then maybe it's an achievable groundshare for a club looking to make the jump over to the pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gentles Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Black Pennel said: Yup...absolutely correct Hillonearth. And no player has ever come back worse after a stint at QP. You've never saw stewart mclean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, GordonS said: I'd be amazed if they ever spent any of that money on operating costs; they're about to lose the rental income from Hampden, for ever. They've tended to be good with money and I suspect they'll keep that as capital for the future. They recently rebuilt their offices and Lesser Hampden is in good nick since the Commonwealth Games, so they really have no need to spend that cash. It isn't up to standard for the SPFL so some of the money will have to go on upgrading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Marshmallo said: If it's a license-level facility with a decent pitch then maybe it's an achievable groundshare for a club looking to make the jump over to the pyramid. Edusport I would imagine would want a groundshare they already train there through the week I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot 1978 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 No its not thats nonsense . Its not even as good as cappielow. Yes it is Jimmy Genitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 44 minutes ago, cowdenbeath said: It isn't up to standard for the SPFL so some of the money will have to go on upgrading it. There would be a fair amount to do to bring it up to SPFL standards - currently there's only one bank of maybe 500 seats and virtually no cover except the overhang of the roof of the wee white building. They'd need to put in turnstiles, proper toilets and so on...it's certainly do-able, and I imagine it would suit the sort of crowds QP get for 99 out of 100 games better than the enormodome next door in terms of matchday experience. Still a pain in the arse running track there though at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gentles Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Talbot 1978 said: 2 hours ago, Jimmy Gentles said: No its not thats nonsense . Its not even as good as cappielow. Yes it is Jimmy Genitals No no talbot bing ..............cappielow is a far better surface than anything the juniors has to offer ................thats why celtic request cappielow for their youth home games and not beechwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gentles Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: There would be a fair amount to do to bring it up to SPFL standards - currently there's only one bank of maybe 500 seats and virtually no cover except the overhang of the roof of the wee white building. They'd need to put in turnstiles, proper toilets and so on...it's certainly do-able, and I imagine it would suit the sort of crowds QP get for 99 out of 100 games better than the enormodome next door in terms of matchday experience. Still a pain in the arse running track there though at the moment... Looks good so that does and far better than the last time i was at lesser hampden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: There would be a fair amount to do to bring it up to SPFL standards - currently there's only one bank of maybe 500 seats and virtually no cover except the overhang of the roof of the wee white building. They'd need to put in turnstiles, proper toilets and so on...it's certainly do-able, and I imagine it would suit the sort of crowds QP get for 99 out of 100 games better than the enormodome next door in terms of matchday experience. Still a pain in the arse running track there though at the moment... You could certainly make it into a decent wee ground. Doing the pavilion side on the cheap you would maybe get away with putting a roof over the current seats I would imagine there is still room over the other side to build a stand and you can also get rid of the track to make more space. Not sure about the current state of behind both goals but at one time there was space couple of bits of terrace there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 hours ago, cowdenbeath said: It isn't up to standard for the SPFL so some of the money will have to go on upgrading it. I hadn't realised that, I knew the playing surface was good and the stand had been rebuilt, but I now see from the pics that it's a long way short of adequate. They'll probably need to add 1,000 to capacity and cover the seat, plus other work. That'll take a chunk out of the windfall. I used to watch the odd QP reserve game there, back in the last millennium... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 As long as they play in League One or Two they only need to meet entry level ground criteria, though their floodlights must be bronze (min 300 lux). Cover being the obvious thing to sort looking at this 2017 photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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