No_Problemo Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Well given what Griffiths has been liking on twitter I’m not sure he’ll be there.... The boy is a fucking idiot. Shouldn’t be allowed on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Ally Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 He needs to take a look at his performances for Scotland. Barring two free kicks he has looked completely out of his depth and Forrest has yet to have a good game for us either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 11 hours ago, No_Problemo said: Well given what Griffiths has been liking on twitter I’m not sure he’ll be there.... The boy is a fucking idiot. Shouldn’t be allowed on twitter. That's not too clever, is it? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was liking the idea that Griffiths should go out and prove McLeish wrong, but even still. He's going to retire in a strop soon if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Griffiths would be better spending his time trying to remind himself that he's unlikely to score from thirty yards every time he shoots, and that passing is the best option most of the time. His selfishness from those positions is why he's struggled to be first choice for club and country for any noticeable length of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Griffiths would be better spending his time trying to remind himself that he's unlikely to score from thirty yards every time he shoots, and that passing is the best option most of the time. His selfishness from those positions is why he's struggled to be first choice for club and country for any noticeable length of time. Absolutely this. There were 2 or 3 occasions when he came on on Monday where he could've slipped someone in (O'Donnell mostly I think) but chose to run headlong into the gathering of defenders and try to get a pointless shot off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, forameus said: Absolutely this. There were 2 or 3 occasions when he came on on Monday where he could've slipped someone in (O'Donnell mostly I think) but chose to run headlong into the gathering of defenders and try to get a pointless shot off. Frustrating as fuck watching him the other night. He's really bad for not keeping his head up and seeing others in better positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I still don't think his sharpness is back where it once was A few years ago his link up play was a hell of a lot better, even if he was still a bit greedy at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DAVIDB69 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 There's too many folk in the squad in their mid 20s with less than ten caps to their name. At a time they should be experienced internationals they're still only picking up the odd cap here and there and usually in friendlies. Instead of chucking in untested players look at the pool of about 30 players who've been around the squad for a while (Shinnie, McGregor, Cooper, McLean, etc.) and build strong base of a squad out of them. If someone like Hornby or Gilmour forces their way in before then all the better but it'd be to their benefit in the long term to have them come into a settled squad with some continuity than having the weight of the world on their shoulders now.But a lot of that is due to the strachan era where players were “young” till their late 20s and only given a chance then.The dads army favourites of strachan a factor as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 That was because Strachan was shit scared of playing anyone in the SPFL. "Guy doing great for Aberdeen? Let's not play him until he's 26 and playing for Cardiff" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy2015 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 But a lot of that is due to the strachan era where players were “young” till their late 20s and only given a chance then.The dads army favourites of strachan a factor as wellLol shinnie, McLean and cooper are no where near Scotland 1st team and simply aren’t that good that’s why they don’t have caps. Agree Mcgregor and Fraser should have more. If you are good enough you will get caps early for example Robertson 23 caps Tierney 10 caps Mcginn 9 caps. In the past fletcher McFadden brown naysmith Caldwell etc all got good amount of caps before they were 25. If your bang average like shinnie cooper Rhodes McLean etc you won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hursty Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, skippy2015 said: Lol shinnie, McLean and cooper are no where near Scotland 1st team and simply aren’t that good that’s why they don’t have caps. Agree Mcgregor and Fraser should have more. If you are good enough you will get caps early for example Robertson 23 caps Tierney 10 caps Mcginn 9 caps. In the past fletcher McFadden brown naysmith Caldwell etc all got good amount of caps before they were 25. If your bang average like shinnie cooper Rhodes McLean etc you won’t. I'd argue that Robertson should have had more than that by now. He was left out plenty times under Strachan to allow us to go with 'experience' with the likes of Mulgrew or Whittaker at left back, despite being far superior. Edit - had a quick look at a few games in 2014 / 2015 when Robertson was playing for Hull mainly in the EPL we started with Whittaker 3 times, Mulgrew twice and Forsyth once. Remember thinking it was frustrating at the time and just seems ridiculous now. It's not as if the defence was watertight an impossible to break into at the time either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: That was because Strachan was shit scared of playing anyone in the SPFL. "Guy doing great for Aberdeen? Let's not play him until he's 26 and playing for Cardiff" That's one of the most progressive and refreshing things about McLeish's approach so far - he's opened the door to the best talent playing in the Scottish league and it's been a win IMO. Souttar got a game when he could have called up Russell Martin or someone from the English Championship, and so did O'Donnell - a move that some claimed was McLeish's suicide note... until he went out and played a blinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 All the call offs for the Mexico/Peru games might have forced his hand a little. Would O'Donnell have got into the squad if all the other right backs hadn't pulled a sickie for those two? Did having to make a national team filled with guys like Chris Cadden and Ryan Christie make him reappraise the quality of players in the SPFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 While Strachan maybe could have made some different decisions, giving him pelters while simultaneously praising McLeish seems a bit off. The latter pretty much had to go to players in the SPFL because a lot of the more experienced ones Strachan was picking are now not available. Had they been, I expect they'd have been in instead of the new blood. Strachan was getting results by sticking with a settled side with experience in the latter half of the campaign, but had he been kept on I expect he'd have had to make some similar decisions, and we'd probably be seeing similar squads. Although having said that, I think we are getting a fresher squad than we would have under Strachan, just not to the extent that some believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, forameus said: Strachan was getting results by sticking with a settled side with experience in the latter half of the campaign, but had he been kept on I expect he'd have had to make some similar decisions, and we'd probably be seeing similar squads. Although having said that, I think we are getting a fresher squad than we would have under Strachan, just not to the extent that some believe. Weirdly I saw it as him getting results when he started playing players who had been left out of the first few teams in the campaign for "experienced" players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 SPFL players? Doubt McLeish will be selecting any SPFL players outwith Premiership players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Honest_Ally said: He needs to take a look at his performances for Scotland. Barring two free kicks he has looked completely out of his depth and Forrest has yet to have a good game for us either. This is utter pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 hours ago, forameus said: While Strachan maybe could have made some different decisions, giving him pelters while simultaneously praising McLeish seems a bit off. The latter pretty much had to go to players in the SPFL because a lot of the more experienced ones Strachan was picking are now not available. Had they been, I expect they'd have been in instead of the new blood. Strachan was getting results by sticking with a settled side with experience in the latter half of the campaign, but had he been kept on I expect he'd have had to make some similar decisions, and we'd probably be seeing similar squads. Although having said that, I think we are getting a fresher squad than we would have under Strachan, just not to the extent that some believe. In McLeish's first squad, he chose to leave out Russell Martin, Hanley and Berra and selected Hendry and McKenna instead. Same goes with McBurnie for Chris Martin. I know they're not all non OF Spfl prem players but they were refreshing choices nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 15 hours ago, DA Baracus said: SPFL players? Doubt McLeish will be selecting any SPFL players outwith Premiership players Lewis Morgan's got two caps before he'd played in the Premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieD Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Matt Phillips playing tonight yet injured for the last squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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