Buddist Monk Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I've been playing games for much longer than I care to admit, and while just about everything has changed over that time, there remains a continuing battle. Whether to have the y-axis inverted. For those who don't know what I mean, and I expect everyone knows what I mean but... when you push up on your "view direction" control should that make the character look up or look down. I simply can't play it with the y-axis not inverted, it's plainly obvious what is going on but conditioning and muscle memory have absolutely nixed any chance I can deal with it being the opposite way. I've made the voting public purely to catch out the liars who choose option 3.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Jester Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 An un-inverted y-axis is the way of the impure heathen. And they should be cleansed from the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kill Jester said: An un-inverted y-axis is the way of the impure heathen. And they should be cleansed from the earth. They should be made to fly planes solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, Kill Jester said: An un-inverted y-axis is the way of the impure heathen. And they should be cleansed from the earth. That's the fucking spirit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Nooka Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I've always inverted the y-axis but I'd find it hard to explain why. It might be because I played a lot flight Sims with a joystick which were my first experience of the first person view long before joypads were a thing or it might be the fact if you move your head forward you look down and vice versa. It doesn't really matter though because the uninverted are just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crroma Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I dont mind inverted controls if I'm piloting a vehicle but it feels so off putting if its a persons viewpoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 Not that I wish to start of some sort of elitist bullshit, but from experience it is the more seasoned/experienced gamer that used inverted y-axis. For example I played clan for nigh on a decade, about a decade ago, and there wasn't a single person I knew who played with a non inverted y-axis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Gary Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I didn't think anyone in the world inverted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebonce Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Buddist Monk said: Not that I wish to start of some sort of elitist bullshit, but from experience it is the more seasoned/experienced gamer that used inverted y-axis. For example I played clan for nigh on a decade, about a decade ago, and there wasn't a single person I knew who played with a non inverted y-axis. On the contrary, when I played in a Rainbow Six clan over a decade ago I was the only one who inverted the y-axis. They tried to convince me that my reactions would be quicker if I was non-inverted, but I was never convinced by that. Within the last year I tried to train myself to do non-inverted but gave up, it felt too weird. I was never huge into flying games etc but some of my earliest gaming memories are with a joystick, so I guess I've always felt the inverted y-axis is natural. Inverting the x-axis fries my brain though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 hours ago, bunglebonce said: On the contrary, when I played in a Rainbow Six clan over a decade ago I was the only one who inverted the y-axis. They tried to convince me that my reactions would be quicker if I was non-inverted, but I was never convinced by that. Within the last year I tried to train myself to do non-inverted but gave up, it felt too weird. I was never huge into flying games etc but some of my earliest gaming memories are with a joystick, so I guess I've always felt the inverted y-axis is natural. Inverting the x-axis fries my brain though! That is genuinely weird. I think I've known about 3 people in all my life who use non-inverted (and yet, 7 have voted that way alone!). I wonder if it's a generational thing, or a consoles thing. Maybe if you grew up playing consoles you are more likely to use non-inverted? Inverted axis doesn't just make things easier for me, it's inherently the "right way" for it to be. As for an inverted x-axis, I've seen the option in some games but honestly I cannot see the benefit of that - ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Nooka Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 It must be a brain interpretation thing, some people might perceive the orientation of the controller differently, they see it as vertical when it's usually more horizontal. They think they are pushing the stick up when they're really pushing it forward. Also worth noting that if you are holding a rifle with your right hand on the trigger, you would move that hand down to aim up and up to aim down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 20 hours ago, Tommy Nooka said: It doesn't really matter though because the uninverted are just wrong. Quite clearly this. I'm glad the poll is public so well deserved bannings can be dished out to the uninverted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 35 minutes ago, Mr X said: Quite clearly this. I'm glad the poll is public so well deserved bannings can be dished out to the uninverted Now you see this is the way to deal with such freaks. A Spanish Inquisition purge is possibly the best they can hope for. Thankfully nobody was silly enough to say they can play it either way. If they did, we'd know they'd weigh the same as a duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebonce Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 hours ago, Buddist Monk said: That is genuinely weird. I think I've known about 3 people in all my life who use non-inverted (and yet, 7 have voted that way alone!). I wonder if it's a generational thing, or a consoles thing. Maybe if you grew up playing consoles you are more likely to use non-inverted? Inverted axis doesn't just make things easier for me, it's inherently the "right way" for it to be. I grew up on consoles in the 8 and 16-bit era, but playing games like Afterburner and Hang On on arcade cabinets would have gone a long way to wiring my brain for the inverted y-axis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I voted non inverted but im sure on battlefront the starfighter part of the game was inverted and i used it, when i play fps i defo use non inverted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQM Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Always invert. My mate uses non-inverted and it does my head in when he's been over at mine on my console and he's left it the wrong way. The way I see it, if you push your head forward, you look down. Pull your head back, you look up. Same with a controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, TQM said: The way I see it, if you push your head forward, you look down. Pull your head back, you look up. Same with a controller. Close the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 The first time I used a controller with a stick was the N64, and default was set to non-inverted. Me and my mates played a lot of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, so at the time I used non-inverted. However when the Xbox came out I believe Halo's default was inverted. At first I fought it and changed it back, but soon gave in after playing some other Xbox games and have been inverted ever since. Recently played Goldeneye on an original N64 and was all over the place due to the non-inverted nature of the controls. In fact the movement and aiming were mental to try and control and I just couldn't get used to it. Used to be great at Goldeneye as well. I actually have Perfect Dark for my Xbox 360, and of course the controls are inverted. It's still a great game, although the alien being called Elvis and being a nippy wee shite still irritate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 36 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: The first time I used a controller with a stick was the N64, and default was set to non-inverted. Me and my mates played a lot of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, so at the time I used non-inverted. I had the same issue when playing multiplayer Goldeneye on my friends N64! That said, the N64 controller was... well... er... "unique". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I guess im just used to playing the likes of Street fighter etc when younger, when up meant jump lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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