BIGdavieT Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 14.30 kickoff for this one folks! I believe so Crusaders can get the ferry?! I really don’t know anything about Crusaders, perhaps someone can enlighten us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthetop Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Crusaders are sitting 6th in their league at present. They are live on sky tonight against Coleraine so an opportunity to assess the standard we will face on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I was going to say we should be confident going into this one as a team in form playing against a smaller club, but I dont want to sound like an Ayr fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGdavieT Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 I presume this isn’t being shown live on some obscure NI channel?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 3 hours ago, BIGdavieT said: I presume this isn’t being shown live on some obscure NI channel?! No. Anyone wanting to watch the match needs to get along to Palmerston on Saturday afternoon, remember it's a 2.30pm k/o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, SUPERSOUTH said: No. Anyone wanting to watch the match needs to get along to Palmerston on Saturday afternoon, remember it's a 2.30pm k/o. Might be a bit much to expect him to come across from Dubai for a Challenge Cup 2nd round tie! It's come at a bad time for us this one, I'd much prefer a league match this weekend to keep the momentum going. Still it's a good opportunity to get into the next round of a cup competition which is what it's all about at the end of the day. I'd still make a raft of changes to the team though. Hopefully starts for Leighfield, Norman, Bell, Murray, Frizzell and Tremble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 minute ago, palmy_cammy said: Might be a bit much to expect him to come across from Dubai for a Challenge Cup 2nd round tie! It's come at a bad time for us this one, I'd much prefer a league match this weekend to keep the momentum going. Still it's a good opportunity to get into the next round of a cup competition which is what it's all about at the end of the day. I'd still make a raft of changes to the team though. Hopefully starts for Leighfield, Norman, Bell, Murray, Frizzell and Tremble. A win in this game would keep the momentum going too. After the last two games I wouldnt make any major changes, maybe play the two new loan signings to see what they're like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie S Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, palmy_cammy said: Hopefully starts for Leighfield, Norman, Bell, Murray, Frizzell and Tremble. God forbid. Planning on coming down for this one, but won’t bother if we’re playing the reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, palmy_cammy said: Might be a bit much to expect him to come across from Dubai for a Challenge Cup 2nd round tie! It's come at a bad time for us this one, I'd much prefer a league match this weekend to keep the momentum going. Still it's a good opportunity to get into the next round of a cup competition which is what it's all about at the end of the day. I'd still make a raft of changes to the team though. Hopefully starts for Leighfield, Norman, Bell, Murray, Frizzell and Tremble. 8 minutes ago, palmy_cammy said: Might be a bit much to expect him to come across from Dubai for a Challenge Cup 2nd round tie! It's come at a bad time for us this one, I'd much prefer a league match this weekend to keep the momentum going. Still it's a good opportunity to get into the next round of a cup competition which is what it's all about at the end of the day. I'd still make a raft of changes to the team though. Hopefully starts for Leighfield, Norman, Bell, Murray, Frizzell and Tremble. Same starting 11 why change a team that's winning well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, SUPERSOUTH said: Same starting 11 why change a team that's winning well. So they don't get tired To protect them from potential injuries To give young lads experience which may be needed later To see what the loans have to offer So loan players get the game time they've come here for To reward the team which won in the last round. Not saying we should or should not make changes, but there are plenty of good reasons for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, SUPERSOUTH said: Same starting 11 why change a team that's winning well. Because the vast majority of the team that is winning well will have played virtually every minute of every game. We have a small squad and inevitably the youngsters will be required at some point in the season. This joke competition is a perfect time to give them some experience. It is also a good opportunity to see what the loan players are like. We probably won't make as many changes as I am suggesting but I will be very surprised if we don't see a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Margaret Thatcher said: So they don't get tired To protect them from potential injuries To give young lads experience which may be needed later To see what the loans have to offer So loan players get the game time they've come here for To reward the team which won in the last round. Not saying we should or should not make changes, but there are plenty of good reasons for doing so. Its a Saturday game with no midweek games either side, in September. Im not sure anyone should be getting tired. Protection from injuries is obviously the biggest reason. Imagine the kick in the stones if Dobbie were to be crocked on Saturday. However, that could happen anytime, or even in training, I'd rather see us stick with largely the same team and build up a winning run and some momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mr X said: Its a Saturday game with no midweek games either side, in September. Im not sure anyone should be getting tired. Protection from injuries is obviously the biggest reason. Imagine the kick in the stones if Dobbie were to be crocked on Saturday. However, that could happen anytime, or even in training, I'd rather see us stick with largely the same team and build up a winning run and some momentum. Fatigue can build up over a season though. This is, according to the manager, the reason Dobbs has been released from training on a regular basis when the rest of the squad have trained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Margaret Thatcher said: So they don't get tired To protect them from potential injuries To give young lads experience which may be needed later To see what the loans have to offer So loan players get the game time they've come here for To reward the team which won in the last round. Not saying we should or should not make changes, but there are plenty of good reasons for doing so. No way Capt Dobbie or the other 10 players that have started the last 2 games will want rested. Keep the current first choice 11 playing together for a 3rd game in a row as we prepare to entertain league leaders Ross County the following week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Losing to St.Johnstone didn’t affect the “momentum” in the next 2 league games. So, I don’t see how playing a weakened team in this and losing would have any effect on league results. Up to the manager, but I’d rather not risk any key players and lose this than play them just to try to maintain some nebulous “momentum” theory that may or may not exist. Last season, we beat Dumbarton at home followed by Falkirk away, then Berwick in the diddy cup, before drawing with Livi then losing at home to Morton. Beating Berwick for a third win in a row looks like it had zero impact on the subsequent league games. There are reasons for and against resting players. But maintaining momentum isn’t one of them, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Want to keep winning especially at home we need to try keep the floating supporters coming to watch Queens and they will more likely come when Queens are winning.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Get an early look at the Crusaders tonight live on Sky Sports TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Flash said: Losing to St.Johnstone didn’t affect the “momentum” in the next 2 league games. So, I don’t see how playing a weakened team in this and losing would have any effect on league results. Up to the manager, but I’d rather not risk any key players and lose this than play them just to try to maintain some nebulous “momentum” theory that may or may not exist. Last season, we beat Dumbarton at home followed by Falkirk away, then Berwick in the diddy cup, before drawing with Livi then losing at home to Morton. Beating Berwick for a third win in a row looks like it had zero impact on the subsequent league games. There are reasons for and against resting players. But maintaining momentum isn’t one of them, imo. I think the "momentum" comments are more about the performances than the results. Despite the defeat the St Johnstone game is arguably when this run of good form started. We could change the team for Saturday and win, but still lose momentum because the partnerships being built up between Semple and Doyle, Todd and Jacobs and the front 4 have been split up. I'm not saying they will play like a bunch of strangers, but teams and players go through purple patches and I can see why people would be keen to do everything possible to keep it going. I'm still inclined to look at the bigger picture and blood a few of the squad and give those who are perhaps carrying minor knocks a rest. Even if we do have to bring on the likes of Dobbie and Harkins as we did in the round before to get through. It's a tough call for the manager, but one he is ultimately paid to make. He's got most things right this season so we shall wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q0S-RUSH Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I wouldn,t mind if we rested Dobbs and Harkins for this one. Couldn,t really care about this competition at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenortherner Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I'm planning to come down for this game too, but not if we are playing a reserve side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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