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36 minutes ago, Muzza81 said:

How is it ridiculous though? The two aren’t mutually exclusive and have no real bearing on each other. Ideally everyone would want a pyramid in place that flows through but that will take time. 

I think you've answered yer own question.

Technically bottom club HFL will play level below SPFL2 year in year out yet bottom of  LL potentially can move doon 2 or 3 leagues year in year out now wi the new set up ?

Whole system is a bit lop sided.

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8 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

I think you've answered yer own question.

Technically bottom club HFL will play level below SPFL2 year in year out yet bottom of  LL potentially can move doon 2 or 3 leagues year in year out now wi the new set up ?

Whole system is a bit lop sided.

Simply due to geography and amount of clubs there will always be more levels in the pyramid below the LL than below the HL. Although I do agree that there should be relegation from the HL. Hopefully that's going to happen now the juniors voted for joining the pyramid, and apparently the North Caledonian League already had talks about this as well.

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14 hours ago, Muzza81 said:

Genuinely assumed he was trolling as Cove have strengthened their team from last year. I’d be surprised if they are not a league club next season.  Will be great for the HL to get rid of them and allow 5/6/7 teams to compete.

Don't think we'd cope with playing Cove 4 times a season :lol: 

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1 hour ago, The Minertaur said:

Don't think we'd cope with playing Cove 4 times a season :lol: 

Maybe you can send most of your squad on loan to the LL champions just for their play-off against Cove (providing you're already safe at that stage of the season & with no chance of reaching promotion play-offs)? Just to ensure Cove don't win... ;) 

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Maybe you can send most of your squad on loan to the LL champions just for their play-off against Cove (providing you're already safe at that stage of the season & with no chance of reaching promotion play-offs)? Just to ensure Cove don't win...  
...and if that plan doesn't work, loan them to Albion Rovers as well .

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On 18/09/2018 at 21:34, newcastle broon said:

I think you've answered yer own question.

Technically bottom club HFL will play level below SPFL2 year in year out yet bottom of  LL potentially can move doon 2 or 3 leagues year in year out now wi the new set up ?

Whole system is a bit lop sided.

It always will be. Geography and money are the dominant factors. The potential league below the Highland League only has nine teams and the current champions are Orkney! Why would two or three unsustainable leagues form under the Highland League just to even up the set up? League 2 teams struggle financially, so smaller teams will only find it even harder. Hence, Selkirk sadly going to the wall recently.

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I think three leagues under the HL seems the most likely outcome eventually due to the geography of the place. A highland/Grampian/Tayside split. One would basically be the current NCL and a few juniors and the rest of the north juniors and east juniors making the other two up.

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The SFA should also look at some of the requirements. If clubs aren't allowed to turn down promotion, it could create problems for the likes of Orkney FC. If they'd end up in the HL the travel expenses would be huge, especially if Tayside teams like Lochee United would also end up there. They'd need to get some sort of subsidy to help out with travel costs, otherwise they should be allowed to turn down promotion.

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If they were allowed to turn down promotion and teams in the NCL all decided it was too far to travel, what would be the point in them joining the pyramid

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23 hours ago, Marten said:

The SFA should also look at some of the requirements. If clubs aren't allowed to turn down promotion, it could create problems for the likes of Orkney FC. If they'd end up in the HL the travel expenses would be huge, especially if Tayside teams like Lochee United would also end up there. They'd need to get some sort of subsidy to help out with travel costs, otherwise they should be allowed to turn down promotion.

 

56 minutes ago, Chris_the_rover said:

If they were allowed to turn down promotion and teams in the NCL all decided it was too far to travel, what would be the point in them joining the pyramid

How does the SRU manage it  ?

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East Stirlingshire currently find themselves, at least until Saturday, joint 2nd bottom of LL. Club below them has a game-in-hand, too.

Let that be a salutary warning to us all.

Edited by HibeeJibee

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The more apposite warning is "don't employ John Sludden as manager and then keep him in post for more than 2 seasons"

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Bump.

For the most part these leagues pause for cup-ties the next 2 weekends so an appropriate time to take a look at where it all stands.

Albion Rovers still prop-up SPFL2 but they're doing well to only be 2pts behind. At this early stage it looks like Cowdenbeath, Berwick, Stirling Albion will vie with them for bottom.

Kelty have moved top of LL on GD, with Spartans tumbling down to 4th after some draws and a surprise defeat at Gala. Civil Service had dropped into mid-table, whilst Edusport claw themselves into the top 5. There is some daylight between 4th & 5th.

It's the familiar story in HL where Cove are 3pts clear despite having played fewer games. Behind are the familiar challengers although Brora are having something of a notable revival this campaign.


SPFL2

 6   Queen's Park  P9  11pts

 7   Cowdenbeath   P8   8pts

 8   Stirling Alb. P9   6pts,  -9

 9   Berwick       P9   6pts, -13

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10   Albion Rov.   P9   4pts

 

 

Lowland League

 1   Kelty          P9 20pts, +18

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 2   East Kilbride  P8 20pts, +16

 3   Cumbernauld    P9 19pts

 4   Spartans       P9 18pts

 5   Edusport      P10 15pts

 

 

Highland League

 1   Cove          P10 30pts

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 2   Fraserburgh   P12 27pts, +25, F38

 3   Brora         P11 27pts, +25, F30

 4   Inverurie     P12 26pts

 5   Forres        P11 24pts

Edited by HibeeJibee

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3 minutes ago, Chris_the_rover said:

What happened with games v Selkirk were results nul and void?

Yes

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Results expunged, aye.

They'd only played 3 with all being heavy defeats to East Kilbride, Gretna and Civil Service Strollers.

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If they were allowed to turn down promotion and teams in the NCL all decided it was too far to travel, what would be the point in them joining the pyramid
It would mean that the option was there for progression. For example, someone like Orkney or Golspie might not be ready for promotion right now but might fancy it a couple of years down the line. It would also allow the non-Golspie clubs to apply for an SFA license and Scottish Cup entry.

Additionally, it would provide somewhere for Highland Leagueclubs in that region to be relegated to.

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This is probably looking on course  for Cove v East Kilbride final, to see who gets to play Albion Rovers, you might think?

Still a long way to go, of course!

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