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6 minutes ago, Clyde01 said:

 


Let’s try a different tact here.

If Cowdenbeath were to finish bottom and Kelty beat them in the play off. Would you be happy watching your team play in this league?

Cowdenbeath
Cove rangers
Fraserburgh
Brora rangers
Forres mechanics
East Kilbride
Spartans
BSC Glasgow
Rangers colts
Celtic colts
Hearts colts
Hibs colts

 

Would imagine Cowdenbeath would happily buy into this.

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13 minutes ago, Clyde01 said:

 


Let’s try a different tact here.

If Cowdenbeath were to finish bottom and Kelty beat them in the play off. Would you be happy watching your team play in this league?

Cowdenbeath
Cove rangers
Fraserburgh
Brora rangers
Forres mechanics
East Kilbride
Spartans
BSC Glasgow
Rangers colts
Celtic colts
Hearts colts
Hibs colts

 

It's not like the Lowland League would be much better from a Cowdenbeath point of view.

Bonnyrigg Rose***
BSC Glasgow
Civil Service Strollers
Cowdenbeath
Cumbernauld Colts
Dalbeattie Star
East Kilbride
East Stirlingshire
Edinburgh University
Edusport Academy
Gala Fairydean Rovers
Gretna 2008
Linlithgow Rose***
Spartans
Stirling University
Vale of Leithen
 

 

*** Took Bonnyrigg & Linlithgow as getting promoted from the EoS and selected to replace Selkirk

 

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Let’s try a different tact here.

If Cowdenbeath were to finish bottom and Kelty beat them in the play off. Would you be happy watching your team play in this league?

Cowdenbeath
Cove rangers
Fraserburgh
Brora rangers
Forres mechanics
East Kilbride
Spartans
BSC Glasgow
Rangers colts
Celtic colts
Hearts colts
Hibs colts

If it's tack you mean rather than tact - I would not be happy in the first place at losing in play off and being relegated but if that is the League my club ended up in I would support them the same as I always have. Same answer applies to Lowland League or if it came to it East of Scotland League.

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8 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

It's not like the Lowland League would be much better from a Cowdenbeath point of view.

Bonnyrigg Rose***
BSC Glasgow
Civil Service Strollers
Cowdenbeath
Cumbernauld Colts
Dalbeattie Star
East Kilbride
East Stirlingshire
Edinburgh University
Edusport Academy
Gala Fairydean Rovers
Gretna 2008
Linlithgow Rose***
Spartans
Stirling University
Vale of Leithen
 

 

*** Took Bonnyrigg & Linlithgow as getting promoted from the EoS and selected to replace Selkirk

 

To be fair, I can see the Lowland League improving greatly within a few years with top (ex-)juniors coming through.

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37 minutes ago, Marten said:

To be fair, I can see the Lowland League improving greatly within a few years with top (ex-)juniors coming through.

It has already improved quite a bit from what it started as. But for the Juniors to prove their reputation true its still going to take years to filter through.

Then you're also looking for the off field standing to match improvements off the field, so increased sponsorships etc.

Fingers crossed the HL/LL champion wins the SPFL playoff this season.

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I bet if James Forrest had played more games against BSC Glasgow and Stirling Uni he'd have scored four goals against Israel, not just a shitey three.

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A point I haven't seen made yet as far as I can see.  This is clearly an attempt to make their be more Old Firm matches as well as giving youngsters a platform to test themselves against a different type of player.  However....

A quick Google brings up this from 2013 -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-22483405

Similar happened in 2014 -

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/fans-arrested-after-trouble-breaks-3473114

The Glasgow Cup final last season had to be played behind closed doors to avoid trouble. 

Let's not give these idiots another chance to cause bother.

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As mentioned earlier they come out with proposals but don't give any real detail to be discussed. As have always said hope it never gets off the ground but was wondering when they would play matches, would it be 3pm kick off on a Saturday at clubs dedicated ground as would be reasonable for part time teams, obviously the down side of that would be if their was any interest in going to these games it could well take folk away from other clubs games.

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One of the biggest arguments the OF fans who back this always seem to put forward to support the idea is it would help out the small teams as the colts would bring in a good attendance for the home team. Made up of fans who can’t get to the big teams games but there is zero evidence to back this up and the challenge cup suggests the opposite is true, with no support to watch the colt teams and the home support generally drops as a protest or just no interest in playing kids.

 

I highly doubt playing against bigger stronger cloggers will improve the skill or control of a youngster as they’ll be halved by the first clogger they go round. Far better to play against other youngsters and work on technique something our players have lacked for decades.

 

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Dumbarton got about 200 more fans for games against Connah's Quay, Montrose and Stranraer than they got for their game v Young Sevco

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Dumbarton got about 200 more fans for games against Connah's Quay, Montrose and Stranraer than they got for their game v Young Sevco


Box office Stranraer

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There's not much in there to suggest they're "gaining momentum". They can't even find 4 clubs who are interested in fielding a "colt" team.

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Even if top flight clubs bought into the argument that having Colt teams would be advantageous to them anyway, which of Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs would accept being shunted into a second rank status anyway (obviously the zombie outfit would get a free pass into the setup because this is Scottish football we’re dealing with)?

If Colt teams were of any value then five teams into four spots is a non-starter; if no one is kicking up a fuss about it then that confirms how little an effect they would have on the performance of biggest clubs.

Get them in the sea then.

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Even if top flight clubs bought into the argument that having Colt teams would be advantageous to them anyway, which of Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs would accept being shunted into a second rank status anyway (obviously the zombie outfit would get a free pass into the setup because this is Scottish football we’re dealing with)?

If Colt teams were of any value then five teams into four spots is a non-starter; if no one is kicking up a fuss about it then that confirms how little an effect they would have on the performance of biggest clubs.

Get them in the sea then.

Rangers and Celtic want colt teams - Motherwell have a decent colt team thus they are interested. Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts might have a wait and see attitude. There aren't a lot of Premier clubs 100% set on this and they aren't competing to be involved - but are interested to see if such an experiment works

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Rangers and Celtic want colt teams - Motherwell have a decent colt team thus they are interested. Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts might have a wait and see attitude. There aren't a lot of Premier clubs 100% set on this and they aren't competing to be involved - but are interested to see if such an experiment works
"might" doesn't exactly lead a massive charge on a big interest though does it? Throwing hopes on clubs as financially risky as Motherwell and Rangers shows this is going nowhere for now.

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On 28/11/2018 at 23:03, Glenconner said:

Would imagine Cowdenbeath would happily buy into this.

Not so much with cowdenbeath it's those colts most of us are against

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You can just see local fuckwits in Old Firm shell suits rolling up at their local SPFL Div 2 side, full of drink and out of the way of CCTV to cause hassle. Not for me.

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Rangers and Celtic want colt teams - Motherwell have a decent colt team thus they are interested. Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts might have a wait and see attitude. There aren't a lot of Premier clubs 100% set on this and they aren't competing to be involved - but are interested to see if such an experiment works


If they don’t have a ‘wait and see’ attitude then there aren’t enough spaces. And if they do then it’s clear that the benefits aren’t anywhere near as compelling as its fluffers like to claim.

So tear up the league structure to enable a shan project with no demonstrable prospect of working effectively? Nope.

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