FairWeatherFan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, Nimmo's Notes said: Wonder what happens to Stirling University EOS team if Stirling University LL side are relegated? With more tiers on the way it becomes easier, they just relegate Stirling University EOS to the league below. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Can you have both a first team and a reserve team in the EoS at the same time though? I suspect not as in the past the reserve team angle was always for the likes of Hibs and Berwick Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Can you have both a first team and a reserve team in the EoS at the same time though? I suspect not as in the past the reserve team angle was always for the likes of Hibs and Berwick Rangers. You have many 2nd teams playing in leagues all over Europe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Stirling Uni EOS would cease to exist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said: Stirling Uni EOS would cease to exist. With the creation of tiers, is there something in the rules that prevents 2 teams from the same club participating in the EoSFL? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimmo's Notes Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 .........or (just for the sake of mischief making) if Stirling University LL finished bottom and Stirling University EOS finished as play off champions, would that mean NO relegation!? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 Stirling University EOS could not participate in a playoff. October is upon us so time for an update. Whitehill find themself somewhat detached afoot LL although it's fairly tight above that and some unexpected clubs feature like 'Shire, Gretna and Stirling Uni. Tight, and no real shocks in EOSL - arguably LTHV's dire start (they sit 10th) most notable. Still a surprise bag topping SOSL.Lowland League 10 East Stir. P10 11pts, +3 11 Edinburgh Uni P10 11pts, -3 12 Gretna P10 11pts, -10 13 Stirling Uni P10 10pts ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 14 Dalbeattie P10 8pts =================================== 15 Whitehill P10 4pts East of Scotland League – Conference A 1 Penicuik P6 18pts - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2 Newtongrange P7 17pts 3 Hill of Beath P5 15pts 4 Leith P7 13pts 5 Musselburgh P5 12pts East of Scotland League – Conference B 1 Bonnyrigg P6 16pts, +32 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2 Dundonald P7 16pts, +12 3 Tranent P6 15pts 4 Bo'ness P5 13pts 5 Sauchie P6 12pts East of Scotland League – Conference C 1 Broxburn P6 18pts - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2 Jeanfield P6 16pts 3 Linlithgow P6 15pts 4 Heriot-W Uni P6 12pts, +9 5 Camelon P6 12pts, +5 South of Scotland League 1 Stranraer SOS P7 21pts, +27 --------------------------------- 2 Bonnyton P7 21pts, +20 3 Lochar P7 19pts, +18 4 Abbey Vale P7 19pts, +15 5 Upper Annand. P7 16pts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 43 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: 1 Stranraer SOS P7 21pts, +27 Presumably Stranraer reserves can't be promoted either? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Presumably Stranraer reserves can't be promoted either? They cannot as it's against the Lowland Leagues rules 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 On 08/09/2018 at 20:13, FairWeatherFan said: With the creation of tiers, is there something in the rules that prevents 2 teams from the same club participating in the EoSFL? Apparently EOSL rules don't allow clubs to enter more than 1 team, so you couldn't have University of Stirling in 'EOSL Premier' and Stirling Uni EOS in 'EOSL First Division South'/similar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Apparently EOSL rules don't allow clubs to enter more than 1 team, so you couldn't have University of Stirling in 'EOSL Premier' and Stirling Uni EOS in 'EOSL First Division South'/similar. Maybe i'm misremembering with the other leagues but when the EOSL updated their policies page, they removed the text relating to membership and promotion. Not knowing what the rules look like there could be a loophole where you can only nominate one "representative" in a competition which could leave an entry point for teams in different divisions. It's something that I imagine will be formally addressed when the EOSL splits into divisions again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimmo's Notes Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 You would think that, if Stirling University LL team were relegated to the EOS Premier division, then their reserve side could play in a lower division. After all, there were proposals to play Old Firm colts teams in League Two, which, obviously, is in a lower division of the same league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 If Stranraer finish first and a licensed team finished second would they let the licensed team enter the playoffs or would no team enter? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, stanley said: If Stranraer finish first and a licensed team finished second would they let the licensed team enter the playoffs or would no team enter? Second place teams or next best finish with a licence can't be promoted. The playoff route is only for the EoS and SoS Champions. If the SoS Champion is unlicenced and the EoS Champion is licenced, then the EoS Champion will be promoted without the need for a playoff. Which is what happened when Edusport got promoted to the Lowland League. There was no licenced EoS Champion, so Edusport were promoted unopposed. Edited October 7, 2018 by FairWeatherFan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulch Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Second place teams or next best finish with a licence can't be promoted. The playoff route is only for the EoS and SoS Champions. If the SoS Champion is unlicenced and the EoS Champion is unlicenced, then the EoS Champion will be promoted without the need for a playoff. Which is what happened when Edusport got promoted to the Lowland League. There was no licenced EoS Champion, so Edusport were promoted unopposed.I think you meant licensed rather than your first unlicensed and SoS rather than your third EoS? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Could Stranraer or Stirling Uni EOS change their administrative structure and/or name and be eligible? I'm thinking something like a separate holding company which manages player registration, separate finances, hire stadium from the first team? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Marshmallo said: Could Stranraer or Stirling Uni EOS change their administrative structure and/or name and be eligible? I'm thinking something like a separate holding company which manages player registration, separate finances, hire stadium from the first team? And The History, obviously... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Marshmallo said: Could Stranraer or Stirling Uni EOS change their administrative structure and/or name and be eligible? I'm thinking something like a separate holding company which manages player registration, separate finances, hire stadium from the first team? If they were two distinct clubs, managed completely differently with no explicit connections between the two, then I don't see why not. Rangers and Hearts have been allowed to do it for years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 The University of Stirling 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Nimmo's Notes said: You would think that, if Stirling University LL team were relegated to the EOS Premier division, then their reserve side could play in a lower division. After all, there were proposals to play Old Firm colts teams in League Two, which, obviously, is in a lower division of the same league. If the rules were altered they could. If the rules remained unaltered they couldn't. OF fantasies in one league will not magic away the rules in another... You'd also need to clear-up issues, such as voting rights. Otherwise, going by rulebook I have (which is a few years old), "no club may enter more than one team in the competition". 5 hours ago, Marshmallo said: Could Stranraer or Stirling Uni EOS change their administrative structure and/or name and be eligible? I'm thinking something like a separate holding company which manages player registration, separate finances, hire stadium from the first team? I'm sure they could but you then run into logistical trouble that mightn't be worth the hassle - they would need their own office bearers, committees, bank accounts etc. - and of course the big problem that they'd have to de-register and re-register players every time they moved between teams. It would also be a bit awkward if they drew each other in cups, though hopefully they'd both be going out to win. EDIT: Also worth saying just a name itself need not be a determining factor... Indeed you already have a single club colloquially known as "University of Stirling" in LL and most cups, "Stirling University EOS" in EOSL and a couple of cups, and "Stirling University Under 20s" in U20 competitions. It'd get pretty confusing were it otherwise, infact! Edited October 7, 2018 by HibeeJibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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