DublinMagyar Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Do weirdos answer their own questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Do weirdos answer their own questions?Dunno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkie84 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On Sun Sep 16 2018 at 00:13, Jambo99 said: Would an Indy Scotland create its own currency? Don't be silly. Can you imagine Scotland had its own bank notes? What would they even look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 15/09/2018 at 17:13, Jambo99 said: Would an Indy Scotland create its own currency? You mean like the currency that Scotland created before that the UK uses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, BawWatchin said: You mean like the currency that Scotland created before that the UK uses? Did they aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 52 minutes ago, thisal said: Did they aye. Aye, they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 The notes will have all the famous landmarks of this great land. Sheep, coos and shortbread tins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandstand Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 12:13, Jambo99 said: Would an Indy Scotland create its own currency? If it wanted to and it could tie it to sterling for as long as it liked The Irish punt was tied to sterling until the seventies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkie84 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 14 hours ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: The notes will have all the famous landmarks of this great land. Sheep, coos and shortbread tins. They would probably be covered in realky tacky images like Robert Burns, Robert the Bruce and the Glenfinnan Viaduct. Cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 14 hours ago, BawWatchin said: Aye, they did. My source "Scottish money was abolished as a circulating currency at the Act of Union in 1707.However, the valued rent of land , and in many places, feu duties and ministers stipends , schoolmaster`s salaries, and other parochial payments were still reckoned by the pound Scots and the merk, or mark, for some considerable time after theUnion. But payment was made in English pounds sterling. Both the English and the Scottish pound was made up of twenty shillings, each of twelve pence. Thus there were 240 pence in a pound. But there were 12 Scots pounds to the English pound. The merk was 2/3rds of a Scottish pound or 13 shillings and fourpence." If you have any evidence to the contrary please oblige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 20 hours ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: The notes will have all the famous landmarks of this great land. Sheep, coos and shortbread tins. Aye and oil rigs and production platforms where the real money is being frittered away by Westminster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 01/09/2018 at 01:29, Jambo99 said: An independent Scotland is impossible. An independent Scotland is worse than a Scotland in the United Kingdom of of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. You're the guy that called Gandhi a racist, aren't you? Know that when you hear moderates of all types talk about the zoomers, they're talking about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 You're the guy that called Gandhi a racist, aren't you? Know that when you hear moderates of all types talk about the zoomers, they're talking about you.Wasn’t Ghandi virulently racist towards black people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Wasn’t Ghandi virulently racist towards black people? Some people say so, though on the evidence I would say he was substantially less racist than Churchill (though people who complain that "you're not allowed to say nuffing in this country" would tell me I'm not allowed to say that). https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34265882 The OPer said 'all nationalism is bad cos it's bad and all nationalists are bad cos nationalism is bad. Cos it is.' I felt that lacked, y'know, nuance. And logic. I'm so completely sick to death of the zoomers on both sides of this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo99 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 5 hours ago, GordonS said: You're the guy that called Gandhi a racist, aren't you? Know that when you hear moderates of all types talk about the zoomers, they're talking about you. Ive never said that. I can't agree with the boomer thing. (also I just noticed I typed "of of".) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 To my mind Independence is inevitable once the Scottish people wake up to the amount of financial no lube screwing we get from Westminster, you only have to travel around the Tory dominated southern and home counties to see where the money is being spent. The HS2 railway project is now up to an estimated £56 Billion cost and did you know that Scotland has to provide 10% of that money out of our budget even though the line will never reach Scotland! The Chancellor sets Westminster spending priorities then it's worked out how much will be spent in england before allocating a percentage of the spend to all the home nations. So we will pay for something we will never see, feckin fantastic eh and there's something you Unionists support, fools all. £34 Billion plus another £10 Billion set aside for overrun for a nuclear missile system where the UK are not allowed to service the guidance systems but see that they are sent back to the states for the service, another feckin waste of money and another no lube shafting! £15 Billion for the London Crossrail rail project. Billions spent needlessly acting as if they were still an Empire with two new aircraft carriers while our hospitals and NHS are falling apart. Westminsters Scottish oil and gas tax revenue from 1978 to 2015 comes to £64.2 Billion. Now look around your towns and cities here in Scotland and tell me about all the grandiose big money projects that has been part funded by that oil revenue. Wakey feckin Wakey or continue dropping yer troosers and smile as you get shafted and laughed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 35 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said: Westminsters oil tax revenue from 1978 to 2015 comes to £64,195 Billion. f**k me! We could have paid off the world wide debt with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 57 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: f**k me! We could have paid off the world wide debt with that! I think you misread that, To simplify I've rounded the figure to £64.2 Billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: I think i've mistyped that, To simplify I've rounded the figure to £64.2 Billion. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 20 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: To my mind Independence is inevitable once the Scottish people wake up to the amount of financial no lube screwing we get from Westminster, you only have to travel around the Tory dominated southern and home counties to see where the money is being spent. The HS2 railway project is now up to an estimated £56 Billion cost and did you know that Scotland has to provide 10% of that money out of our budget even though the line will never reach Scotland! The Chancellor sets Westminster spending priorities then it's worked out how much will be spent in england before allocating a percentage of the spend to all the home nations. So we will pay for something we will never see, feckin fantastic eh and there's something you Unionists support, fools all. £34 Billion plus another £10 Billion set aside for overrun for a nuclear missile system where the UK are not allowed to service the guidance systems but see that they are sent back to the states for the service, another feckin waste of money and another no lube shafting! £15 Billion for the London Crossrail rail project. Billions spent needlessly acting as if they were still an Empire with two new aircraft carriers while our hospitals and NHS are falling apart. Westminsters Scottish oil and gas tax revenue from 1978 to 2015 comes to £64.2 Billion. Now look around your towns and cities here in Scotland and tell me about all the grandiose big money projects that has been part funded by that oil revenue. Wakey feckin Wakey or continue dropping yer troosers and smile as you get shafted and laughed at. I travel in and out of London most of the year. I've no doubt whatsoever the only driver in all that May is doing is the City of London. The Square Mile is shitting themselves that their world will drift away to Paris or Frankfurt. In Boris' last big speech before he left the Mayor's office he declared that TfL needed an additional £3.3bn per year to 2030 just to keep the infrastructure growing. The £15bn for Crossrail, to get chaps from Leadenhall to Heathrow quicker at the weekend, was the opening price. The project is well overspent, due largely to strikes and inflated labour rates when the unions realised there was more work than skilled tradesman, and anything short of £20bn will be a miracle. The project is running very late and the penalties per week will be massive, we'll never see that published. Part of the delay at Spurs new place was due to lack of electricians because they are still down the tunnels earning a fortune. HS2 has likewise been holding at £56bn for two years but that's another cover story. All that cost so far has been for professional fees and only recently some contracts for Euston Station. Nothing at all for the actual train set, which is widely reported as being significantly more challenging than HS1, nor anything at the Curzon Street station in Birmingham. And that's only phase 1. HS1 cost £11bn for 67 miles of track, average £80m per mile. By comparison, France TGV built a line from Paris-Strasbourg at the same tim for £22m per mile. Although maybe they didn't redevelop a staion like St Pancras, the Eurostar terminal, which concidentally at the same time was linked by new walkways to King's Cross which also had a major refurbishment. Handy! And then there was the Olympics. A Great British event because a few football games were scattered around the island. Meanwhile, London's East end was regenerated with roads, the canal system was recovered under the guise of getting suppliers to deliver via barge rather than road. Stratford International was built cleverly incorporating London buses, DLR, Jubilee Tube line, Eurostar and main line services. All wrapped up in The People's Games. £4bn for a new sewer down the Thames. £1bn for Tilbury Docks 2. On and on. All paid for by the UK tax payer. People in London like to tell you that 30% of the country's money comes from them. So I like to tell them that means 70% of their money comes from the rest of the country. https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2018/04/18-fears-grow-over-true-cost.html Sooner we are away from that thieving mess the better. English Regions need to wake up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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