Detournement Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Clockwork said: Seems AS isn’t quite ready to let things go following his acquittal. A distraction NS could well do without at present. https://inews.co.uk/news/scotland/snp-alex-salmond-claims-nicola-sturgeon-misled-the-scottish-parliament-multiple-times-823179 No one resigns these days so it doesn't matter. And given that Nicola Sturgeon has banned us from socialising this is small beer now to the vast majority of people if it wasn't before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Oh oh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Biteback is owned by Ian Dale, a failed Conservative candidate who writes for the Conservative Home website, and Michael Ashcroft, a former Conservative party deputy chair Kieran Andrews is the Times Scotland Political editor. Davie Clegg has worked for the Courier and the Daily Record and has been linked previously to Liz Lloyd, who worked for Nicola Sturgeon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 The Sunday Mail are reporting a potential perjury investigation into the trial. Women A and H definitely commited perjury so it seems simply a matter of whether Sturgeon can shut it down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: Women A and H definitely commited perjury No point in an investigation then, get the bonfire lit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: No point in an investigation then, get the bonfire lit. Weren't you the one that didn't want the alleged perjury to be investigated at the time that it happened? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Weren't you the one that didn't want the alleged perjury to be investigated at the time that it happened? I don't remember that. As I remember it I said that it was possible for 2 people to recollect events from a few years ago differently with neither party lying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 15/05/2020 at 22:37, welshbairn said: You're the one who wants to re-examine the evidence and put one of the witnesses under further scrutiny. I'd have thought it would be better to let it rest for all concerned. If you think you can prove a political conspiracy to damage the political prospects of Salmond, whatever he had left, then beaver away. But I think the witnesses should be left alone. Whilst you did also say that 2 people could remember events differently, you specifically said in a number of posts that witness H should be left alone (see above for one example) I must admit, however, that I find it a bit odd that this has resurfaced now. Is there an election in the offing, or something? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Detournement said: The Sunday Mail are reporting a potential perjury investigation into the trial. Women A and H definitely commited perjury so it seems simply a matter of whether Sturgeon can shut it down. Average person: bored shitless by this HB: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Anyone in the future who wants to make a sexual harassment complaint against a powerful boss will certainly think twice about it now, however this enquiry plays out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Anyone in the future who wants to make a sexual harassment complaint against a powerful boss will certainly think twice about it now, however this enquiry plays out. I've heard this argument before, but for me reaching a truthful conclusion should be the sole aim of any court case or process. Whilst we should encourage women to come forward whenever they've been assaulted, we should also discourage them not to do so if it hasn't happened. Salmond could have died in jail for things he didn't do. Edited April 3, 2022 by Duries Air Freshener 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Anyone in the future who wants to make up a bunch of lies about a politically retired ex-boss should certainly think twice about it now, however this enquiry plays out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said: I've heard this argument before, but for me reaching a truthful conclusion should be the sole aim of any court case or process. Whilst we should encourage women to come forward whenever they've been assaulted, we should also discourage them not to do so if it hasn't happened. Salmond could have died in jail for things he didn't do. Glad to see you taking such a principled stance in defence of an SNP legend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, lichtgilphead said: Anyone in the future who wants to make up a bunch of lies about a politically retired ex-boss should certainly think twice about it now, however this enquiry plays out. Anyone thinking of just getting a bit cuddly with a staff member and apologising the next morning should think twice about it too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Glad to see you taking such a principled stance in defence of an SNP legend. Cheers, and I don't mind that all.. I pride myself in being balanced. It'd be foolish to let ones political stance cloud their judgement on such matters. Tribalism has a lot to answer for. I don't particularly see it as a defence either,.. just a rational take on the situation. Edited April 3, 2022 by Duries Air Freshener 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 If there is definitive proof of where Woman H actually was the night Salmond, Barber and the strangely anonymous actor had dinner in Bute House it will kick up an absolute pile of shit. She was warned not to lie during the trial but did it anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Anyone thinking of just getting a bit cuddly with a staff member and apologising the next morning should think twice about it too. Agreed, but that's not neccesarily a criminal offence. See HMA v Salmond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said: Cheers, and I don't mind that all.. I pride myself in being balanced. It'd be foolish to let ones political stance cloud their judgement on such matters. Tribalism has a lot to answer for. I don't particularly see it as a defence either,.. just a rational take on the situation. You wouldn't have had any comment on this if you weren't hoping it might eventually reflect badly on Nicola Sturgeon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duries Air Freshener Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, welshbairn said: You wouldn't have had any comment on this if you weren't hoping it might eventually reflect badly on Nicola Sturgeon. Aye, nae bother. Edited April 3, 2022 by Duries Air Freshener 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 The other very revealing part of this is that if perjury charges are brought it will definitely lead to a huge political scandal but numerous Scottish political journalists who know all the details already are on Twitter saying that there should be no perjury investigation! Scotland is an incestous, corrupt place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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