Jim McLean's Ghost Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 11 hours ago, git-intae-thum said: Eh ...no he didn't. The fact that lots of devious individuals with dark motives keep saying this and weens of simple minded numpties keep repeating it.......does not make it true. In only one of the charges did he admit to a brief consensual cuddle. Maybe not sensible or advisable, but he is human. The jury obviously were unvonvinced with regards to the veracity of the rest of the allegations and Salmond categorically denied the incidents took place. He did admit a lot of the incidents did happen and downplayed one of them as a "sleepy cuddle". In various incidents he said that the interactions were consenual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: He did admit a lot of the incidents did happen and downplayed one of them as a "sleepy cuddle". In various incidents he said that the interactions were consenual. No. This is just wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Well if H_B and Strichener are on the same page that's plenty enough for me to fire their opinions into the nearest metaphorical bin. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, git-intae-thum said: No. This is just wrong. No it isn't mate. Admissions of incidents. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/alex-salmond-tells-trial-allegations-21706508 Salmond was asked about the allegations made by Woman D. He acknowledged he had “tugged” her hair but he had done so “affectionately”. He added: “There was nothing sexual in it whatsoever.” Salmond was asked if he stroked Woman D’s face while she was asleep. He replied: “I did, yeah.” Claiming incident was consenual https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/18/alexsalmond-claims-fabrications-sex-assault-have-political-motive/ He also said he had a consensual encounter with a second complainer, another Scottish Government official, with whom he shared a "sleepy cuddle" that "should not have happened" because he was the First Minister and "should have known better". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 The jury decided that they were not sexual assaults. Being up on a charge for touching someone's hair is mental. None of what is described there excuses the BBC of making a documentary which omitted all the defence evidence, it doesn't justify whoever put his legal team under surveillance and it doesn't excuse senior UK civil servants conspiring against him illegally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Salmond is not a sexual predator, just a creepy cùnt. I’d prefer if he stayed well away from Scottish politics, and in particular the Independence movement, but he will be driven by his enormous ego. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 3 hours ago, strichener said: Ah, I get it the Government couldn't interfere with an independent body? That went well for you the last time you deployed such nonsense. incidentally it is the Scottish Government that has refused to hand over the papers, not the civil service. https://www.gov.scot/about/how-government-is-run/civil-service/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: https://www.gov.scot/about/how-government-is-run/civil-service/ And? Who is the Permanent Secretary responsible to? Who do the 5000 member of the Scottish civil service report to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, strichener said: And? Who is the Permanent Secretary responsible to? Someone at U.K. level? The Cabinet Secretary maybe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Paige-Black Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Someone at U.K. level? The Cabinet Secretary maybe? I am either being wooshed here or there is a distinct lack of understanding of the Scottish political setup. Surely with all the political engagement shown in this forum it must be the former? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I am either being wooshed here or there is a distinct lack of understanding of the Scottish political setup. Surely with all the political engagement shown in this forum it must be the former?The civil service is a reserved matter, they are all part of Her Majesty's Civil Service but they serve the Scottish Government. The permanent secretary is answerable to the Cabinet Secretary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Innocent until proven Guilty. Salmond had a trial and he wasn't found guilty. Therefore if we respect the society we live in, he's innocent and a free man. So he should be left alone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 14 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: Innocent until proven Guilty. Salmond had a trial and he wasn't found guilty. Therefore if we respect the society we live in, he's innocent and a free man. So he should be left alone. This is worth a read : https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18668585.opinion-iain-macwhirter-jury-found-innocent-alex-salmond-still-trial/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 23 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: The civil service is a reserved matter, they are all part of Her Majesty's Civil Service but they serve the Scottish Government. The permanent secretary is answerable to the Cabinet Secretary. Oh dear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 This is worth a read : https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18668585.opinion-iain-macwhirter-jury-found-innocent-alex-salmond-still-trial/Decent read, just backs up his innocence tbh and the various campaigns again him.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Wark documentary is back up on iPlayer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 This is worth a read : https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18668585.opinion-iain-macwhirter-jury-found-innocent-alex-salmond-still-trial/Decent read. Kirsty Wark's programme was clearly done in the anticipation of a guilty verdict. Truthfully she's still never gotten over her big mate McConnell being dumped out of power by Salmond and boy does it show. Salmond is creepy and sleazy towards woman when he has a drink in him. But he was proven innocent of criminality and for the BBC to show that programme was a badly misjudged move. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Leslie Evans is apparently going to get away with lying to Parliament with the excuse she simply forgot about a meeting where she told the FM about the investigation into Salmond. Standards in public life in Scotland have fallen as much as anywhere else over the past 10 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Detournement said: Standards in public life in Scotland have fallen as much as anywhere else over the past 10 years. Probably not Belarus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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