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1 hour ago, dirty dingus said:

Alex Salmond calls on Permanent Secretary to Scottish Government Lesley Evans to resign as a result of her incompetence.

 

She's made a statement saying she's going nowhere.

 

ETA - Nicola now saying Leslie Evans will have her support for the action she took.

That's very disappointing  - Salmond achieved a lot in his term as FM - he still carries a lot of support.

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14 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Yeah but why?  Why is the person leading the investigation not ensuring that everything is OK before defending the action?

This. An "HR specialist" ought to know when contact is appropriate and havingspoken to the complainants should have declared a conflict of interest when assigned the case. If the position was already known to the assigning manager then they should have declared long before they did. 

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32 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

She's made a statement saying she's going nowhere.

 

ETA - Nicola now saying Leslie Evans will have her support for the action she took.

That's very disappointing  - Salmond achieved a lot in his term as FM - he still carries a lot of support.

And is still under police investigation and even after this morning they have been quite clear that these allegations may be looked at again by the Scottish Govt. He's still nowhere near being in the clear, ScotGov statements are clear that this has been a procedural cock-up (sic) rather than they actually think he's innocent.

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1 minute ago, Jason King said:

And is still under police investigation and these allegation may also be looked at again by the Scottish Govt. He's still nowhere near being in the clear, ScotGov statements are clear that this has been a procedural cock-up (sic) rather than they actually think he's innocent.

 

Fair comment.

I just find it utterly galling that the party looks set to tear itself apart at this time of all times.

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13 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

Fair comment.

I just find it utterly galling that the party looks set to tear itself apart at this time of all times.

It won't be torn apart. Sturgeon knows that there will be a better end outcome once the police have concluded their work. She can't possibly come out in step with Salmond until or unless the complaints themselves have been dismissed. Were she to do that and call it wrong, the SNP would be in tatters for looking after its own and backing the wrong horse. Alex Salmond may know himself to be innocent but he's not daft either - he knows the position Sturgeon is in. 

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21 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

The procedural mistake should not stop the case going ahead, that would be very wrong, but equally it should not just be ignored or swept aside.

 

 

I did hear someone say this morning that the women who accused AS of sexual misconduct were encouraged to proceed with their complaints by Leslie Evans. That she didn't adopt the correct procedure could, as suggested by AS, be "tainted with bias"

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So what happens now? When will the Police have concluded their investigations in his alleged inappropriate behaviour? The error in case preparation and procedure doesn’t have anything to do with the accusation itself does it?

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14 minutes ago, RedRob72 said:

So what happens now? The error in case preparation and procedure doesn’t have anything to do with the accusation itself does it?

It may impact the investigation. The police may need to investigate the basis of Scottish Govt approach from the perspective of people being actively encouraged - I think that was the phrase - to make their complaint.  That could mean anything from "if you feel you have grounds then you should raise a complaint" to "go on, you know you want to".  

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19 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

I did hear someone say this morning that the women who accused AS of sexual misconduct were encouraged to proceed with their complaints by Leslie Evans. That she didn't adopt the correct procedure could, as suggested by AS, be "tainted with bias"

Again it depends on the nuance.  

A wary female coming forward who may be concerned about the implications of making an allegation against a high profile male, even if it is justified, may need ‘encouragement’.

 

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1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

Fair comment.

I just find it utterly galling that the party looks set to tear itself apart at this time of all times.

When it comes to the most important thing of all, the party will pull together no matter what happens. If there's anything the SNP has been good at, it's showing a united front.

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Very sad all the same that Salmond's parliamentary career has probably been destroyed - even if subsequently found not guilty of any impropriety. 

He was a distinguished First Minister, and very highly regarded Westminster MP. His political presence is badly missed and the net result of all this is bound to cause some damage to the party and its raison d'etre.

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The SNP won’t, and rightly shouldn’t, welcome him back into the fold if he’s let off on the basis of “well he did it but there was some shenanigans in the news coming to light”. If Salmond is genuinely committed to independence and isn’t an egoist then he’ll stay away.

As an aside, a quick glance at Twitter during this sorry episode has shown that the venn diagram between the people who donated to the fundraiser and the people who tell Cat Boyd every day to “stop splitting the movement”, and “we’ll sort out gender issues after indy”, is a circle.

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