Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Ive got to say id find the prospect of Alec Salmond being involved in any indy campaign too distasteful for me to engage with it in any way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Ive got to say id find the prospect of Alec Salmond being involved in any indy campaign too distasteful for me to engage with it in any way. I can fully understand your thinking and I'm sure that thousands would feel the same way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Ive got to say id find the prospect of Alec Salmond being involved in any indy campaign too distasteful for me to engage with it in any way. I don't disagree with you here, but people can't sideline an innocent man who has built his career on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I don't disagree with you here, but people can't sideline an innocent man who has built his career on it.Before these allegations came to light, and the court case which followed, was anyone expecting Alex Salmond to make a return to frontline politics ?If not, why would anyone expect it now ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: He's as hugely divisive as he ever was and to borrow a phrase from football he has taken the team as far as he can take them. He has no place in the independence movement going forward. .......for the cause of independence.....this is just wrong.....very wrong!!!!! The current management of the snp have no desire to get us their. It's surely just SNP fanboys who are in denial now. Edited April 13, 2020 by git-intae-thum 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 8 hours ago, NotThePars said: Salmond will play as much a role as he chooses to and the 'woke left' will be blamed for any infighting that goes on regarding it. Let's be honest. That is because the woke left are a bunch of fuds that are no worth listening too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Unless Salmond is delusional then he'll know he's gubbed as far as front line politics is concerned. I expect he'll make some money from a newspaper column or two, the odd TV appearance and after-dinner speaking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 13:00, Jacksgranda said: And I'm no Salmond/SNP/independence fan boy, although I always thought he was a very able politician. Agreed entirely. His role in pushing independence from a fringe movement to a serious and credible option is hugely indebted to him. However, illegal or not, his behaviour was not fitting of a politician and rather than accept that, and the not guilty/not proven verdicts, and slink away he seems hell bent on revenge and is putting his own ego and reputation ahead of all else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Unless Salmond is delusional then he'll know he's gubbed as far as front line politics is concerned. I expect he'll make some money from a newspaper column or two, the odd TV appearance and after-dinner speaking. Has he not got his RT gig to go back to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Agreed entirely. His role in pushing independence from a fringe movement to a serious and credible option is hugely indebted to him. However, illegal or not, his behaviour was not fitting of a politician and rather than accept that, and the not guilty/not proven verdicts, and slink away he seems hell bent on revenge and is putting his own ego and reputation ahead of all else.This will be a big self test of awareness for Alex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 This will be a big self test of awareness for AlexI think we’ve seen that he’s got very little of that. His RT job, for one, has really meant he’s got very little legitimacy as a public figure at this point, from an SNP perspective at any rate. I think Sturgeon will rightly give him a wide berth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 8 hours ago, git-intae-thum said: .......for the cause of independence.....this is just wrong.....very wrong!!!!! The current management of the snp have no desire to get us their. It's surely just SNP fanboys who are in denial now. This post wins the Wings Da paranoia bingo. Mind and call house! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Day of the Lords said: Unless Salmond is delusional then he'll know he's gubbed as far as front line politics is concerned. I expect he'll make some money from a newspaper column or two, the odd TV appearance and after-dinner speaking. The best thing he could do is get all the angry cybernats doing some productive organising and activism instead of shouting at people online. In my experience some of the people who spent their day in Monica Lennon's mentions perpetually foaming at the mouth actually ended up being credits to their local party apparatus once they logged off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said: The party would be idiotic to let him back in given he will clearly only cause trouble and undermine the FM. Elements of the 'movement' will unfortunately have no such qualms and will think they can use his profile for their own ends. There are obviously differences but the parallels with Sheridan in terms of someone who is willing to undermine the cause he did so much for in order to support his own ego are striking. On what basis would the party be able to exclude him? I think the FM is already undermined in this whole episode and the reason why we won't see any inquiry being pushed by the Government. If Salmond has anything showing that the SNP organisation were complicit in any of this episode then he is well within his rights to seek to have this exposed. Doing so is nothing to do with ego or "undermining the cause" but seeking the public exposure of behaviour that should not be tolerated regardless of the "cause". Edited April 13, 2020 by strichener 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Maybe they'll let him in if he does have leverage over them. Suppose it depends what he has and what he wants to do in the next few years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, strichener said: On what basis would the party be able to exclude him? I think the FM is already undermined in this whole episode and the reason why we won't see any inquiry being pushed by the Government. If Salmond has anything showing that the SNP organisation were complicit in any of this episode then he is well within his rights to seek to have this exposed. Doing so is nothing to do with ego or "undermining the cause" but seeking the public exposure of behaviour that should not be tolerated regardless of the "cause". He’s not a member of the party so they don’t need to exclude him. As a public figure, what he does off his own back is of course up to him and no-one in or out of the SNP will tell him otherwise, I’m sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Day of the Lords said: Unless Salmond is delusional then he'll know he's gubbed as far as front line politics is concerned. I expect he'll make some money from a newspaper column or two, the odd TV appearance and after-dinner speaking. Probably not for the Sunday Herald, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 By the looks of it he is looking to make Sturgeon's position untenable - if it isn't already - and then support Joanna Cherry in the leadership contest. The SNP payroll squealing that Sturgeon's way is the only way to get Indyref2 seems a bit desperate. The Tories aren't granting a referendum and Starmer probably won't either. This is the beginning of a struggle over the SNP's relationship with the UK state. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Londonwell said: He’s not a member of the party so they don’t need to exclude him. As a public figure, what he does off his own back is of course up to him and no-one in or out of the SNP will tell him otherwise, I’m sure. He was previously a party member and resigned from the party whilst the court case was running. The SNP have no basis to exclude him from joining the party if that is a route he wants to go down (which is what his statement at the time of his resignation indicated he would do). Edited April 13, 2020 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Detournement said: By the looks of it he is looking to make Sturgeon's position untenable - if it isn't already - and then support Joanna Cherry in the leadership contest. SLAB's wet dream. Edited April 13, 2020 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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