Savage Henry Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I see the yer da Alt Nat Twittersphere is handling this as well and as rationally as you’d expect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: This is just sexist. Could be worse. Could have been a chinese judge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: This is just sexist. If you were on trial, and defending yourself yourself against similar charges as those faced by Salmond, would you prefer a male judge and an all male jury, or a female judge and all female jury? -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 All Trans please If you were on trial, and defending yourself yourself against similar charges as those faced by Salmond, would you prefer a male judge and an all male jury, or a female judge and all female jury? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: If you were on trial, and defending yourself yourself against similar charges as those faced by Salmond, would you prefer a male judge and an all male jury, or a female judge and all female jury? "Oooh look at the state of her, looks like she got that dress from Matalan, wouldn't trust a word she says." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 "I went and asked a woman and she said I wasn't being sexist at all and anyway, it's because everyone round my bit is sexist that I said it. I'm not actually sexist myself". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Someone being anonymous for having their hair stroked is taking the piss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, Detournement said: Someone being anonymous for having their hair stroked is taking the piss. It's a hard one. You should be able to make an accusation against a high profile person without having your life seriously harmed by the publicity, but if the accuser has form for fanciful or frivolous complaints, or bias, it might not be revealed to the jury if they remain anonymous. Not sure how it all works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: It's a hard one. You should be able to make an accusation against a high profile person without having your life seriously harmed by the publicity, but if the accuser has form for fanciful or frivolous complaints, or bias, it might not be revealed to the jury if they remain anonymous. Not sure how it all works. They won't be anonymous to the jury! It's the lack of public scrutiny of this trial that is the issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Detournement said: They won't be anonymous to the jury! It's the lack of public scrutiny of this trial that is the issue. What I meant was that the jury and defense might be denied important info about the accusers' possible unreliability if people with relevant evidence don't know who they are. But that has to be balanced against the threat of having your life destroyed by making a complaint against a powerful person behaving badly. It's not easy. Edited March 9, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, Detournement said: They won't be anonymous to the jury! It's the lack of public scrutiny of this trial that is the issue. Why should the public be scrutinizing the trial? Genuine question 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Pack Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Sleazy bassa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 The defence rests. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: What I meant was that the jury and defense might be denied important info about the accusers' possible unreliability if people with relevant evidence don't know who they are. But that has to be balanced against the threat of having your life destroyed by making a complaint against a powerful person behaving badly. It's not easy. One would appeal for moderation that is as swift as it is punitive. Or perhaps this is a hint that a future president can do as he pleases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: Why should the public be scrutinizing the trial? Genuine question Because public trials are a basic feature of democracy. Which the UK is continually moving away from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Just now, Detournement said: Because public trials are a basic feature of democracy. Which the UK is continually moving away from. True. The use of the word scrutinise specifically is interesting though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 When does the trial end? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, Detournement said: Because public trials are a basic feature of democracy. Which the UK is continually moving away from. They still have non Jury trials in Northern Ireland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: They still have non Jury trials in Northern Ireland. And in Canada. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: When does the trial end? When he’s found guilty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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