ICTJohnboy Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: At the risk of making a parochial comparison, Salmond is beginning to act like Stevie Aitken; his time was up and everyone else has moved on save for himself. And like Aitken, he is rapidly burning through what goodwill and respect remained. I honestly doubt whether this stuff will affect the SNP vote by any more than a few hundred. Much to his credit I thought, the first thing Salmond did when this came to light was to resign from the party. That should have been enough to minimise any serious or lasting damage - unfortunately the tories, not surprisingly, are going to make this it all as uncomfortable for Nicola as they possibly can. She didn't handle last Thursday's FMQ's very well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: At the risk of making a parochial comparison, Salmond is beginning to act like Stevie Aitken; his time was up and everyone else has moved on save for himself. And like Aitken, he is rapidly burning through what goodwill and respect remained. I honestly doubt whether this stuff will affect the SNP vote by any more than a few hundred. #AlexSalmondTacticalGenius 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 A bit mad that an as yet unproven set of allegations are going to apparently tear the SNP asunder, when Labour appear to openly promote sex pests and the Tories are rammed full of bigots and paedophiles tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: If I had been falsely accused (as he asserts) of sexual assault and subject to a stitch up then I don’t think I’d be taking one for the team either.... There's a police investigation ongoing that will hopefully come to a conclusion either way. The Government HR process was botched, but I doubt very much it was a conspiracy against an ex-MP and part-time cable TV presenter. Nobody would gain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I agree, I've thought from Day One that there are parallels with the anti-Semitism smears on the Labour party. It is incredibly easy to take some basic facts and then embroider them to suit an agenda.As evidence I would cite the recent apocalyptic headlines about civil war and rampant factionalism within the SNP - these are a lot easier to print than to prove and justify. No matter, the story is off and running.And you know what ? Outwith anoraks like us, who the flying f**k really cares about the minutae of esoteric points of ministerial and civil service conduct ? Two women have made a complaint about the alleged conduct of Alex Salmond; fine, let the investigation be vigorous and thorough, but don't try and portray a complaint as a contagion.This.Your average voter couldn't give a flying f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 The SNP are reaching 12 years of being in government. I always think that when someone has been so entrenched in the furniture for that long, shit starts to stick and it's generally not the sort of things that people anticipate that can have really dramatic effects and damage a party.Sex sells and people love feuds like this. I think that the party will be OK with such a shit opposition and a big constitutional issue but I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up becoming a bigger thing than people anticipate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, harry94 said: The SNP are reaching 12 years of being in government. I always think that when someone has been so entrenched in the furniture for that long, shit starts to stick and it's generally not the sort of things that people anticipate that can have really dramatic effects and damage a party. Sex sells and people love feuds like this. I think that the party will be OK with such a shit opposition and a big constitutional issue but I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up becoming a bigger thing than people anticipate. With the way the media behaves in this country. Having the facts of the matter twisted and blown way out of proportion is exactly what we anticipate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: At the risk of making a parochial comparison, Salmond is beginning to act like Stevie Aitken; his time was up and everyone else has moved on save for himself. I'm thinking more of Jim Sillars. A man consumed by personal bitterness, holding bizarre grudges for more than 20 years. A boon to the anti-SNP media with his off-the-cuff criticisms of pretty much everything the SNP does. It's very sad seeing someone as influential as Alex Salmond moving into that same territory. But like Sillars, Salmond's ego won't allow him to rest in peace. Actually, Salmond's ego outstrips that of Sillars by around 1000%. And unlike Sillars, he still has the potential and power to cause significant damage to the SNP and the independence movement, if he so wished. Edited January 15, 2019 by Bob Mahelp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) Just heard that there will now be a parliamentary enquiry into how the government has handled the Salmond situation which will ensure that this saga will run and run. It's certainly not now going to be quickly swept aside and forgotten. Not good for Nicola - especially at a time when she could, or should be preparing for the next GE Edited January 15, 2019 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Just heard that there will now be a parliamentary enquiry into how the government has handled the Salmond situation which will ensure that this saga will run and run. It's certainly not now going to be quickly swept aside and forgotten. Not good for Nicola - especially at a time when she could, or should be preparing for the next GE No it isn't and it's all by design. It will drag on and on until just after the general election, when the SNP will have been found to have behaved appropriately throughout the process, despite the MSM propaganda suggesting otherwise leading up to the general election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Can't help thinking that the police investigations, having begun last Autumn, are taking an inordinately long time to reach a conclusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said: Can't help thinking that the police investigations, having begun last Autumn, are taking an inordinately long time to reach a conclusion. It will reach it's conclusion. After the next general election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Stunning work by the Scotsman Photo Editor here. https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/alex-salmond-pledges-to-end-uncivil-war-with-nicola-sturgeon-1-4859422 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 He’s been arrested 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 #scenes upcoming. Looking forward to some absolute drivel from roasters on both sides here. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Why would he have been arrested now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: Why would he have been arrested now? There's been a police investigation ongoing about this the entire time has there not? Separate from the Scottish Government case. ETA - STV have changed their headline a bit from Mackays tweet, he's due to appear in court just not in custody https://stv.tv/news/politics/1434895-former-first-minister-alex-salmond-arrested-by-police/ Edited January 24, 2019 by Big Fifer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Excellent. Popcorn sales rocketing as I speak. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 #scenes upcoming. Looking forward to some absolute drivel from roasters on both sides here. You are correct. This is a gift for everybody to fill their boots to the brim. Looking forward to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Absolutely buzzing for the usual state of celebration about this from those that dislike Salmond, accompanied with the standard side order of absolutely no consideration for the potential victims. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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