54_and_counting Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: If you pursue the Dominic Ball line, you'll have to acknowledge that with Coulibaly offside and active, there should have been no penalty and therefore no possibility of a sending off. As it is, the officials on the field operating in real time, got it marginally, and understandably, wrong. The issue here concerns the decisions reached regarding the actions of three players, in the cold light of day, with footage to consider. The ultimate Morelos and Naismith decisions are concerning and odd. The Brown one is utterly inexplicable, and borderline sinister. The fact coulibaly was offside doesn't take away from the fact that the referee for whatever reason failed to do his job when he awarded the penalty, and as a direct result dundee may well feel hard done by that a player who rightly should have been banned wasnt and played against them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 46 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Kicking a player up the arse or smashing an elbow in a players face is different from pretending to fly a plane. Agreed - in the circumstances of an amazing match, in front of his own fans and without malice. Thought getting pulled up for that was a bit harsh. They probably only took action because he was so far onto the pitch and he was already on probabtion with a ban suspended from the Killie outburst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The fact coulibaly was offside doesn't take away from the fact that the referee for whatever reason failed to do his job when he awarded the penalty, and as a direct result dundee may well feel hard done by that a player who rightly should have been banned wasnt and played against themHahahaha this is such a wild take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, 54_and_counting said: The fact coulibaly was offside doesn't take away from the fact that the referee for whatever reason failed to do his job when he awarded the penalty, and as a direct result dundee may well feel hard done by that a player who rightly should have been banned wasnt and played against them You're terribly selective - some might say self serving - with regard to the injustices that you see as mattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The problem is that the referee is subjective,one may give a decision one may not,it's this grey area that makes the rules as clear as mud, making it impossible to have consistency, Which opens it up to a conspiracy theory and the calimero show.it's an injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: You're terribly selective - some might say self serving - with regard to the injustices that you see as mattering. Okay then, if the linesman had spotted mckenna barging morelos the first time and called the refs attention, then morelos doesn't kick out the 2nd time and doesn't get sent off, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: Okay then, if the linesman had spotted mckenna barging morelos the first time and called the refs attention, then morelos doesn't kick out the 2nd time and doesn't get sent off, If the referee had blown his whistle to start the match five seconds later than he did, then it would all have turned out differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, kingjoey said: If the referee had blown his whistle to start the match five seconds later than he did, then it would all have turned out differently. I agree, but when people try defend the ref not sending ball off by saying there was an offside before it, while forgetting morelos was fouled twice before his kick out, then they are being terribly selective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 You’re very blinkered aren’t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: Okay then, if the linesman had spotted mckenna barging morelos the first time and called the refs attention, then morelos doesn't kick out the 2nd time and doesn't get sent off, The first one is a nothing incident, the second could merit some attention but it was immediately followed by Morelos kicking out. Your argument has to rely on the ref stopping the game for the first time McKenna shoulders Morelos, which not a single person has said was an offence. The second, sure, that could be debated, but not the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: Okay then, if the linesman had spotted mckenna barging morelos the first time and called the refs attention, then morelos doesn't kick out the 2nd time and doesn't get sent off, Is that your retort to the accusation that you're being self servingly selective? Because I've got to tell you that it's not denting my argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 57 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Is that your retort to the accusation that you're being self servingly selective? Because I've got to tell you that it's not denting my argument. No thats me saying what happens before a foul doesn't justify or give leeway to a ref not following the rules when he does give the foul Both st mirren and dundee faced a player that should have been banned, why the outrage over one and not the other is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: No thats me saying what happens before a foul doesn't justify or give leeway to a ref not following the rules when he does give the foul Both st mirren and dundee faced a player that should have been banned, why the outrage over one and not the other is beyond me Just to end your argument once and for all, Ball’s offence was a not a red card as he was not getting to the ball first, hence not an obvious goal scoring opportunity. Therefore, he had every right to be playing against Dundee. There, knock it on the head for goodness sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: No thats me saying what happens before a foul doesn't justify or give leeway to a ref not following the rules when he does give the foul Both st mirren and dundee faced a player that should have been banned, why the outrage over one and not the other is beyond me I'm not outraged over either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 RaBearz pathetic attempts to emulate Celtic have truly peaked when they're holding candlelit vigils for a player who kicked a fellow professional and wasn't suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn Necessities Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Hilarious stuff from the compliance officer. How the f**k can you review both these incidents and say "nah, we're good here... " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, 54_and_counting said: Both st mirren and dundee faced a player that should have been banned, why the outrage over one and not the other is beyond me Is that you agreeing with the Morelos' red? Because that's the only player I can see that we've faced that should have been banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Broonaldo elbows a hearts player. Broonaldo gets off with it. Celtic fans tweet 'cos of Sevco like' P&Bers lap it up and blame Sevco, rather than demand answers from the SFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Broonaldo elbows a hearts player. Broonaldo gets off with it. Celtic fans tweet 'cos of Sevco like' P&Bers lap it up and blame Sevco, rather than demand answers from the SFA. Rangers get a man sent off for violent conduct justifiablyRed card gets rescinded ridiculouslyScott brown commits a crimeRangers up in armsBoth sides wet the bed over conspiracies Bennett post sarcastic nonsense that means nothing to anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Actually, there's one element to all of this that I think's been overlooked by the farce of the outcome. The games were on Saturday, the stooges met on Monday and the predictable whitewash was announced late Monday afternoon. This must be the first time in the history of Scottish football anything associated with Hampden has been carried out within the proper time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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