EdiBairn Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, TurbineTon said: There's absolutely no way that Falkirk crowds are remotely close to what they're announced as. Saturday might have been a lot closer with it being the first game, but 9/10 the crowd is some wild number which everyone can see is absolute nonsense. Probably inclusive of every season ticket sold, despite not every season ticket holder being in attendance. It's a simple observation. No need to take the huff. Virtually every club in the country includes all season ticket holders in attendance figures. Just because we have a support triple the size of yours doesn't mean you have to be jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbineTon Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, EdiBairn said: Virtually every club in the country includes all season ticket holders in attendance figures. Just because we have a support triple the size of yours doesn't mean you have to be jealous. Do they? Why would you do that. That in itself defeats the purpose of announcing, erm, the match attendance. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthetop Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Virtually every club in the country includes all season ticket holders in attendance figures. Just because we have a support triple the size of yours doesn't mean you have to be jealous.Queens don’t probably cause we haven’t got that many season ticket holders. The club never says how many anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 My understanding is that some clubs do that, but most clubs don't. I'm pretty sure Killie's attendance figures are based on the number of people who attended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbineTon Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, overthetop said: Queens don’t probably cause we haven’t got that many season ticket holders. The club never says how many anyway. Not necessarily because you don't have that many season ticket holders, but because it's absolutely not the done thing. Unless ofc, you're either of Falkirk, Dunfermline or the Highland clubs. A perfect example here - crowd announced as a 4816 Lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeBairn Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 This thread is pretty much irrelevant. Who gives a flying f**k how teams count attendance? Why do Morton fans care how Queens fans count attendance? Why does it matter to Partick fans how Falkirk fans count attendances? I know the gap between games drags a bit, but Jesus.. Just wee teams jumping up and down trying to get noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, DeeBairn said: This thread ...Jesus.. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Eh, your fans have also been banging on that the league Cup was meaningless and you couldn't look to deaply into it, make up yer minds min. Also Dunfermline, Falkirk and the Highland sides announce how many tickets have been sold for the game, it doesn't bother me much tbh. It was meaningless but we were still poor and then poor again on Saturday. The pre season enthusiasm has disappeared like snow aff a dyke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, EdiBairn said: Virtually every club in the country includes all season ticket holders in attendance figures. Not at all. In the top flight last season, I’m relatively confident it was a 50/50 split between “tickets sold” and actual attendance. Celtic, Aberdeen, Rangers, Hibs, Hearts and County are the ones it look like gave tickets sold, while the other 6 reported who was actually in attendance. I’ll admit I could be wrong about a couple of these, but just from the simple eye test when you’re at the game it’s usually easy enough to work it out. Cant speak for last year’s Championship, but I know Dunfermline admitted they do it, and it seems like you’re acknowledging that Falkirk do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbineTon Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nightmare said: Not at all. In the top flight last season, I’m relatively confident it was a 50/50 split between “tickets sold” and actual attendance. Celtic, Aberdeen, Rangers, Hibs, Hearts and County are the ones it look like gave tickets sold, while the other 6 reported who was actually in attendance. I’ll admit I could be wrong about a couple of these, but just from the simple eye test when you’re at the game it’s usually easy enough to work it out. Cant speak for last year’s Championship, but I know Dunfermline admitted they do it, and it seems like you’re acknowledging that Falkirk do as well. Great Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-Star-Par Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, TurbineTon said: Lolwut? Merely pointing out that overstate your attendance figures. There for all to see. ^^verge of tears *Insert pic of Ainsley Harriott eating baked goods* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbineTon Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, All-Star-Par said: ^^verge of tears *Insert pic of Ainsley Harriott eating baked goods* ^^ Falkirk/Dunfermline love in. Boak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 If you want to know how many Thistle fans are ready for the #NextBigMoment just read/count the posts from the last two months of nothingness on the Club Twitter feed and round down to exclude mentions of the “quality” new signings we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I prefer the actual attendance figure being stated. It's not a number pulled out of the air though. We have actually got that many fans either in the ground or own a Pars season ticket. Morton could start announcing crowds of 2000 if they added their ST holders. Come join us. You can also add Dundee to that list above. I know for a fact they add season ticket sales to attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn Necessities Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Weren't there allegations it used to be the other way round in the past? Something to do with tax? I'm sure Celtic used to deliberately understate the attendance for some dubious reasons in the 80s * * allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chubbychops said: I prefer the actual attendance figure being stated. It's not a number pulled out of the air though. We have actually got that many fans either in the ground or own a Pars season ticket. Morton could start announcing crowds of 2000 if they added there ST holders. Come join us. You can also add Dundee to that list above. I know for a fact they add season ticket sales to attendances. It didn't look like it when I was at Dens twice last season. But as I said it's more of an educated guess, so you could well be right. I know for a fact that Thistle count actual attendance, and am almost certain that Kilmarnock, Motherwell and St Johnstone do as well. The exception to it all is Ross County, who for as long as I can remember seem to genuinely have been pulling figures straight out of the air, though. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. Attendances are pretty much only used for bragging between fans, or by the media to either slate a wee club or champion a bigger one who are shite. It's just a bit daft that there's no set criteria for measuring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, TurbineTon said: Lolwut? Merely pointing out that overstate your attendance figures. There for all to see. Offft this really bothers you doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbineTon Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, Believe The Hype said: Offft this really bothers you doesn't it. Aye, i'm absolutely gutted about it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Nightmare said: It didn't look like it when I was at Dens twice last season. But as I said it's more of an educated guess, so you could well be right. I know for a fact that Thistle count actual attendance, and am almost certain that Kilmarnock, Motherwell and St Johnstone do as well. The exception to it all is Ross County, who for as long as I can remember seem to genuinely have been pulling figures straight out of the air, though. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. Attendances are pretty much only used for bragging between fans, or by the media to either slate a wee club or champion a bigger one who are shite. It's just a bit daft that there's no set criteria for measuring it. It may well be that more turned up that day Nightmare. I had a family member who was on the board at Dundee, that's how I know. They have added ST's for years. Pars only started doing this last year because Falkirk had been doing it. Does look daft sometimes when you have a midweek games in mid winter and half the attendance are sitting at home. The picture the Morton fan posted was a midweek game in winter last season and we were on a really bad run of form. That game was probably the most extreme example of this. Normally there's a difference of 6-700 for regular Saturdays. Under 12 season tickets are the biggest contributor to the gap. Next year we will not be including under 12 tickets who don't attend, so our figures will be not that different in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 3 hours ago, TurbineTon said: A perfect example here - crowd announced as a 4816 Lies. This really gets under your skin, absolutely delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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