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12 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

It imbeciles that turn up trumping one poll to "prove" they are winning. 

 

 

 

 

Lets look at the long term tracker poll (again)

 

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The two parties have been near enough the same spot for over a year, all within the standard error. 

 

Britain Elects latest poll tracker released on the 10th of August is 

 

Labour about 0.4% "ahead". 

 

Its the same mentality as Trump, "lugenpresse". A conspiracy theory that all the press are against them because they are so awesome. Why no one buys papers supporting them tends to desolves into basically everyone is idiots and accepts the press lies rather than they are a relatively fringe group in the larger society. 

 

Its not popular to point out this is basically a crank conspiracy theory. If the press were so against the mainstream people would move to reading the Morning Star, but no one does because they are basically loonies. 

 

The most leftish of the high circulation press, the Daily Mirror has shown the most long term drop in circulation. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_circulation#/media/File:UK_daily_newspaper_circulation_1950_present.svg

At least you’re not bothered.  That’s the main thing.:)

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"Its the same mentality as Trump, "lugenpresse". A conspiracy theory that all the press are against them because they are so awesome. Why no one buys papers supporting them tends to desolves into basically everyone is idiots and accepts the press lies rather than they are a relatively fringe group in the larger society. "

Buying papers is irrelevant now. The purpose of the smears in the Telegraph, Mail, Times isn't to influence the people who read those papers but to dominate the wider narrative. So for example people are talking about Corbyn at a graveside rather than shite wage growth and productivity.

The idea that billionaire owned press being biased against socialist policies is a crank conspiracy theory is brilliant.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5401097/Jeremy-Corbyn-paid-Czech-secret-police-spy-claims.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/05/09/could-army-coup-remove-jeremy-corbyn-just-almost-toppled-harold/

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Detournement said:

So for example people are talking about Corbyn at a graveside

It was the grave of the founders of founders of Black September, Salah Khalaf, Hayel Abdel-Hamid and Fakhri al Omari. Off course you are not bothered, had it been the grave of the founders of al Queda you would have been very bothered, al Queda murdered Christians and Muslims. Black September is most famous for murdering Jews, this is not terrorism in the eyes of the hard left thus Corbyn did nothing wrong. And before the tedious attempts to pretend he only laid wreaths at the people who died in the Israeli attack in 1985, he stated when he got back in 2014 "After wreaths were laid at the graves of those who died on that day and on the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris in 1991", he is shown taking part in that wreath laying. I know some try to keep his original lies going but its here in the Morning Star. 

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/a-98de-palestine-united-1

 

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43 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

It was the grave of the founders of founders of Black September, Salah Khalaf, Hayel Abdel-Hamid and Fakhri al Omari. Off course you are not bothered, had it been the grave of the founders of al Queda you would have been very bothered, al Queda murdered Christians and Muslims. Black September is most famous for murdering Jews, this is not terrorism in the eyes of the hard left thus Corbyn did nothing wrong. And before the tedious attempts to pretend he only laid wreaths at the people who died in the Israeli attack in 1985, he stated when he got back in 2014 "After wreaths were laid at the graves of those who died on that day and on the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris in 1991", he is shown taking part in that wreath laying. I know some try to keep his original lies going but its here in the Morning Star. 

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/a-98de-palestine-united-1

 

"This conference will be attended by over two hundred lawyers and experts in international relations and human rights activists from all over the world, as well as a number of politicians from Palestine, the Arab World and the West."

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1 minute ago, NewBornBairn said:

He's not anti-Semitic himself but he's good friends with a lot of people who murder Jews as their day job.

 

It's like saying I'm not a racist and it's a coincidence I have meetings with the KKK.

It's a violent world.

Yet it only seems to be association with Palestinians that pose a problem.

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I will repeat again, netanyahu himself, personally, is an actual genuine bona fide terrorist.

The end of his military career saw him join a shadowy semi legal paramilitary group whose name I forget.  He spent a couple of years with them.  What they did was stage revenge raids into Palestinian territories to literally murder Palestinian civilians and, and this was their stated aim, terrorise them into leaving so Israel could take their land. 

Netanyahu lead quite a few of these raids himself, he is genuinely an actual terrorist and murderer.  Google it if you don't believe me.  Corbyn needs better researchers or bigger balls as that should have been his first retort.  Netanyahu is also a war criminal too.

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Ladies and gentlemen I give you Margaret Hodge MP:

A Jewish Labour MP has said the moment she found out she faced investigation for confronting Jeremy Corbyn over anti-Semitism made her think about "what it felt like to be a Jew in Germany in the 30s.

 

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Ladies and gentlemen I give you Margaret Hodge MP:
A Jewish Labour MP has said the moment she found out she faced investigation for confronting Jeremy Corbyn over anti-Semitism made her think about "what it felt like to be a Jew in Germany in the 30s.
 
An impressive use of Godwin imo. She seems somewhat of a cuntress.
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15 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Ladies and gentlemen I give you Margaret Hodge MP:

A Jewish Labour MP has said the moment she found out she faced investigation for confronting Jeremy Corbyn over anti-Semitism made her think about "what it felt like to be a Jew in Germany in the 30s.

Presumably the windows in her house were smashed and her front door graffitied before she was dragged off by the hair to be interviewed in a dark basement....

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We might think it sounds a bit far fetched but if you are Jewish then her line about her dad saying she should always have a suitcase packed ready to leave probably resonates quite a lot with a group who have spent the most part of the last 2000 years being persecuted and victims of “the worlds oldest hatred.”

 

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7 minutes ago, Sooky said:

We might think it sounds a bit far fetched but if you are Jewish then her line about her dad saying she should always have a suitcase packed ready to leave probably resonates quite a lot with a group who have spent the most part of the last 2000 years being persecuted and victims of “the worlds oldest hatred.”

 

 

She was investigated for swearing at her boss, not for 2000 years of rubbing up people the wrong way. 

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13 minutes ago, Sooky said:

We might think it sounds a bit far fetched but if you are Jewish then her line about her dad saying she should always have a suitcase packed ready to leave probably resonates quite a lot with a group who have spent the most part of the last 2000 years being persecuted and victims of “the worlds oldest hatred.”

 

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Complete and utter shite.  Your comment only has the merest semblance of validity if there was even a slight chance she was going to be sent to a concentration camp as a result of the investigation.  Do you think she was champ?  Do you think she genuinely feared that?

In truth her disgraceful comments demean the suffering of those that were and are as low as it gets.

And those same people have been doing the persecuting for the last fifty years as it happens.

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