D Angelo Barksdale Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Imagining the reaction if a Labour shadow minister had gone on BBC radio and said that if people wanted to invite holocaust deniers to universities to speak about how the holocaust never happened, then that was fine. I wonder if like the above, it would barely make the news and be almost instantly forgotten about, or if it would be the main story in Britain for at least a week, with calls for at least half a dozen people to resign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Utterly deranged 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Utterly deranged We are 5 days away from the state of Israel tweeting about being cancelled by the woke left for simply doing an ethnic cleansing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Hasbara gonna hasbara I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-netanyahu-is-leading-israel-into-civil-war-between-jews-and-palestinians-1.9797672 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 When one side is basically launching rockets from milk bottles, and the other is able to retaliate by wiping out an entire block of flats with one push of a button, is it not time to examine the use of the word "war"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: When one side is basically launching rockets from milk bottles, and the other is able to retaliate by wiping out an entire block of flats with one push of a button, is it not time to examine the use of the word "war"? The only answer to the criticism of Palestinian's using "indiscriminate" rockets (fireworks from milk bottles isn't far off) is to give them a full modern military. Otherwise the criticism is simply that they are not allowed to defend themselves 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: The only answer to the criticism of Palestinian's using "indiscriminate" rockets (fireworks from milk bottles isn't far off) is to give them a full modern military. Otherwise the criticism is simply that they are not allowed to defend themselves Was it Israel that fired first on Gaza or vice versa? I haven't been following. I see Arab civilians in Israel are being attacked and that is obviously completely out of order. How are things going with the Jewish community in neighbouring Arab countries? Is it still possible to walk around openly with a yarmulke on in Cairo, Gaza, Amman, Damascus or Baghdad? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 The English version of wings v kezia. A debatable interpretation of winning big and nobody will come out of this looking good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Was it Israel that fired first on Gaza or vice versa? I haven't been following. I see Arab civilians in Israel are being attacked and that is obviously completely out of order. How are things going with the Jewish community in neighbouring Arab countries? Is it still possible to walk around openly with a yarmulke on in Cairo, Gaza, Amman, Damascus or Baghdad? I am incredibly interested in finding out where the destination in this journey is 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Aladdin said: 2 hours ago, Steve_Wilkos said: The English version of wings v kezia. A debatable interpretation of winning big and nobody will come out of this looking good. Don’t like Dugdale but she’s a far better person that the Zionist shill. Edited May 14, 2021 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Steve_Wilkos said: I’m on Rachel Riley’s side and I don’t even know or care about the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) Think there's also a Fatah vs Hamas electoral angle as well if you dig a little deeper but that disrupts the simplistic bad powerful guys vs good guys that will behave like Guardian readers if only the power imbalance could be shifted mindset that many appear to have. The "Republic of Artsakh" collapsed earlier this year when Turkish military drone technology removed their strategic edge of holding the high ground because the Armenian side lacked strategic depth to be able to fall back to and regroup in. Israel is in a very precarious position strategically if Hamas finds a way to effectively circumvent the Iron Dome defence system and it looks like they are not too far off achieving that. Edited May 15, 2021 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 ^^^building strawmans rather than addressing what was really written. Virtue signal away to your heart's content. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Yeah I dunno man I just think Israel should stop bombing their prisoners ever closer to the Stone Age while their citizens do Kristallnacht pt 2. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Pato said: Me, an idiot: Destroying homes and killing civilian children won't improve a people's disposition to the people dropping the bombs. You, a sage: If we just drop enough bombs on these people and deny enough freedoms and assault their dignity in enough ways they will surely rise up and overthrow their leadership to something that suits us better. The two state solution is dead. The Israelis won't countenance one state. The real development recently has been the increasing fantacism of Israeli civilians. It's almost 30 years since Oslo and it's undeniable that Yigal Amir achieved everything he wanted. Reading Haaretz it seems like the more responsible members of the Apartheid regime are more concerned about Zionist fanaticism than Palestinian attacks but there is nothing that can put a brake on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Think there's also a Fatah vs Hamas electoral angle as well if you dig a little deeper but that disrupts the simplistic bad powerful guys vs good guys that will behave like Guardian readers if only the power imbalance could be shifted mindset that many appear to have. The "Republic of Artsakh" collapsed earlier this year when Turkish military drone technology removed their strategic edge of holding the high ground because the Armenian side lacked strategic depth to be able to fall back to and regroup in. Israel is in a very precarious position strategically if Hamas finds a way to effectively circumvent the Iron Dome defence system and it looks like they are not too far off achieving that. Maybe i'm being dim, but what's nagorno karabakh got to do with Israel? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: Yeah I dunno man I just think Israel should stop bombing their prisoners ever closer to the Stone Age while their citizens do Kristallnacht pt 2. Do Hamas respect LGBT rights and use the appropriate pronouns these days I haven't been following? I never received an answer on whether you can wear a yarmulke openly in Gaza City. Do the virtue signallers have something they are being willfully blind to in all of this? Maybe both sides need to stop firing projectiles at each other and vote in their peace and two state solution supporting political parties rather than their extremists and there are no easy wave a magic wand and everyone will turn into quiche eating Guardian readers solutions on all of this. Israel is unlikely to be sustainable militarily long term so the current trajectory of Hamas and a Likud backed by Revelations believing American Evangelicals setting the agenda is leading to something catastrophic but go on feeling better about yourself by only being able to find fault with half of that equation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Do Hamas respect LGBT rights and use the appropriate pronouns these days I haven't been following? I never received an answer on whether you can wear a yarmulke openly in Gaza City. Do the virtue signallers have something they are being willfully blind to in all of this? Maybe both sides need to stop firing projectiles at each other and vote in their peace and two state solution supporting political parties rather than their extremists and there are no easy wave a magic wand and everyone will turn into quiche eating Guardian readers solutions on all of this. Israel is unlikely to be sustainable militarily long term so the current trajectory of Hamas and a Likud backed by Revelations believing American Evangelicals setting the agenda is leading to something catastrophic but go on feeling better about yourself by only being able to find fault with half of that equation. The wages of inappropriate pronouns is death 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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