Detournement Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) "Shit, our argument has more holes than Swiss Cheese, make an undermining bingo card!" Edited October 29, 2020 by Detournement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 59 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said: Not often that I will agree with your take on things but the Anti-Semitism and bigotry on here is disgusting. Hilarious that the same people who will scream about any perceived racist slight seem to care not a jot about the Children of Jah. How long do we have to wait until you beg the mods to delete this account as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said: Ah the power of the Whatsapp group. If you cannot see it, I cannot educate you as there is none so blind as those who will not see. Lol what a state to get yourself into. Chucking around unsubstantiated anti semitism accusations and refusing to specify them (while minimising the obvious racism displayed by other "cliques" of the forum). And all because you get ripped for being a Tory on a football forum/your pleading monologues directed to the mods are rightly ignored. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said: Ah the power of the Whatsapp group 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Ooft. Corbyn suspended as Starmer folds like a cheap deck chair. Labour Link Edited October 29, 2020 by Day of the Lords 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: How long do we have to wait until you beg the mods to delete this account as well? Darkly funny that you have Ian Curtis as your avatar given your complete disregard for people with mental health problems. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Jez suspended by Labour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said: Darkly funny that you have Ian Curtis as your avatar given your complete disregard for people with mental health problems. Unsure what my fondness for late 70s/early 80s Post-punk has to do with your utterly tedious posting on this thread, but here we are. Were you actually going to post evidence of widespread anti-semitism and bigotry on P&B or just greet about it on this thread? A single Baw-Watchin post doesn't really suggest a wider pattern. Edited October 29, 2020 by Day of the Lords 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Ah the power of the Whatsapp group. If you cannot see it, I cannot educate you as there is none so blind as those who will not see. Unfortunately you’re supposed to actually substantiate your claims if you want them to be taken seriously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Ooft. Corbyn suspended as Starmer folds like a cheap deck chair. Labour Link That is excellent news, hopefully Milne will be outed as the ringleader. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Ooft. Corbyn suspended as Starmer folds like a cheap deck chair. Labour Link No wonder considering his disgustingly antisemitic statement today. (sarcasm emoji) Quote My statement following the publication of the EHRC report: “Antisemitism is absolutely abhorrent, wrong and responsible for some of humanity’s greatest crimes. As Leader of the Labour Party I was always determined to eliminate all forms of racism and root out the cancer of antisemitism. I have campaigned in support of Jewish people and communities my entire life and I will continue to do so. “The EHRC’s report shows that when I became Labour leader in 2015, the Party’s processes for handling complaints were not fit for purpose. Reform was then stalled by an obstructive party bureaucracy. But from 2018, Jennie Formby and a new NEC that supported my leadership made substantial improvements, making it much easier and swifter to remove antisemites. My team acted to speed up, not hinder the process. “Anyone claiming there is no antisemitism in the Labour Party is wrong. Of course there is, as there is throughout society, and sometimes it is voiced by people who think of themselves as on the left. “Jewish members of our party and the wider community were right to expect us to deal with it, and I regret that it took longer to deliver that change than it should. “One antisemite is one too many, but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media. That combination hurt Jewish people and must never be repeated. “My sincere hope is that relations with Jewish communities can be rebuilt and those fears overcome. While I do not accept all of its findings, I trust its recommendations will be swiftly implemented to help move on from this period.” Edited October 29, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Day of the Lords said: Unsure what my fondness for late 70s/early 80s Post-punk has to do with your utterly tedious posting on this thread, but here we are. Were you actually going to post evidence of widespread anti-semitism and bigotry on P&B or just greet about it on this thread? A single Baw-Watchin post doesn't really suggest a wider pattern. Yay, the Whatsapp group has a new member, I refer you to my original biblical quote. Ian Curtis was clinically depressed & along with Spike Milligan and Tony Hancock is one of my heroes, I, unlike them, have never achieved anything but I admire them for being able to do what they did. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Corbyn- “I can’t be an antisemite, my best pal is a nasty Joo”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 We live in very repressive times and Corbyn was always going to be punished for challenging power. You look at recent social media censorship, ridiculous media biases in the 2019 GE and the current US Presidential election, Assange being subjected to treatment that amounts to torture while his trial is being ignored by the MSM and we are getting close to boiled frog territory. You don't notice until it's too late. On a more light hearted note fearless journalist and author Owen Jones still hasn't tweeted about Corbyn's suspension..... -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Corbyn didn't behave perfectly - he had some lapses, particularly when it came to the mural. But it's clear that the anti-semitism complaints were only being resolved when he had full control of the NEC and Jennie Formby was able to clear it up. Prior to that, the unit was controlled by centrists and Blairites like McNicol, who are the type of people now being welcomed back into the party. Which is absolutely astounding. That these people would use anti-semitism to this end is absolutely disgusting, and shows that centrism truly has no morals. Corbyn has campaigned for anti-racist causes his entire life, including in support of Jewish groups and communities. When compared to the people inside Labour who deliberately sat on these issues to weaponise them, I'm pretty sure I know which one is the anti-racist. Labour has completely lost young voters in England by doing this. Finished as a meaningful political party - they're going back to the days of abstaining on welfare cuts and controls on immigration mugs. A new party will emerge and usurp them. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said: Yay, the Whatsapp group has a new member, I refer you to my original biblical quote. Ian Curtis was clinically depressed & along with Spike Milligan and Tony Hancock is one of my heroes, I, unlike them, have never achieved anything but I admire them for being able to do what they did. Whatsapp group? What the f**k are you on about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: No wonder considering his disgustingly antisemitic statement today. I genuinely feel sorry for Jeremy Corbyn, I have actually had the chance to talk to him & I believe he is a good person but he has been led down the rabbit hole by people with darker agendas than him & the decent, socialist aims he believes in are drowned out by a combination of those people who have starkly Marxist, Communist agendas & the media in this Country who consistently painted him as something he is not because of those around him. He is a decent person, he was never a credible Leader of the Opposition, neither would he ever be a Prime Minister. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: We live in very repressive times and Corbyn was always going to be punished for challenging power. You look at recent social media censorship, ridiculous media biases in the 2019 GE and the current US Presidential election, Assange being subjected to treatment that amounts to torture while his trial is being ignored by the MSM and we are getting close to boiled frog territory. You don't notice until it's too late. On a more light hearted note fearless journalist and author Owen Jones still hasn't tweeted about Corbyn's suspension..... When did he challenge power? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, Day of the Lords said: Whatsapp group? What the f**k are you on about? These posts are actually making me miss Dormolin. Most of his posts were at least coherent and his coked up Friday night rants were hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Am I picking this up correctly? The report criticises the Labour Party for acting illegally through leadership interference in the disciplinary process. In every instance that the leadership acted illegally, it was in interfering to push for harsher or quicker punishments in cases of antisemitism. When the leadership found recurrent problems in the disciplinary process in failing to take action on antisemitism they then reformed it, with these reforms leading to a 200% increase in cases being heard in 2019 v 2018. The conclusion which is being drawn from that finding is that their illegal action proves the leadership allowed antisemitism to take root in the party. The fact they interfered with investigations to push for harsher and faster punishments then introduced reforms to the disciplinary process, which increased the number of cases being heard and how quickly they were resolved, is proof they were deliberately obstructing that process. What Kafka novel is this? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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