welshbairn Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Another banned Bell cartoon. The woman in the fireplace was a medic who had been shot by the Israelis the week before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 At least they've updated that "union" jack to reflect modern times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Found the Guardian "Reader's Editor" piece on the cartoon above. Don't agree with it at all, the holocaust didn't come to mind for a second. Bear in mind Razan Al-Najjar had just been murdered a few days before, why would anyone think the fireplace was meant to be a Nazi crematorium? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/24/steve-bell-razan-al-najjar-cartoon-guardian-editor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Another one that Israeli Government lobbyists "PROMOTING FAIR AND ACCURATE COVERAGE OF ISRAEL" - https://ukmediawatch.org/2018/08/15/guardian-cartoon-defends-corbyn-and-ties-israeli-leader-to-white-supremacy/ , took offense to. Quote But, leaving the twitter dispute aside, note how Bell not only takes Corbyn’s side in the debate, but employs imagery attempting to associate Israel’s prime minister with apartheid – a smear based, in part, on a gross mischaracterization of the new Jewish Nation-State law – and even white supremacy. It depicts Donald Trump (with the flat head) on one side of him, and Steve Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist and once head of a website he proudly described as the platform for the alt-right, on his other side. The alt-right is a loosely affiliated movement which promotes white nationalism, racism, and antisemitism. It also includes a man waving an apartheid flag – likely a depiction of P.W. Botha, the former South African president during apartheid. But, that apartheid smear is not even the worst of it. Standing next to Netanyahu is an American-flag hooded man clearly designed to evoke the Klu Klux Klan (KKK), the notorious US white supremacist group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 All fine and good, but don't turn a blind eye to this recent story: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senior-hamas-official-urges-palestinians-worldwide-to-kill-every-jew-on-the-globe and pretend that sharing a platform with people from Hamas as Corbyn has done doesn't leave him wide open to attack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOG Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Political affiliations aside, we are witnessing an hatchet job on JC by the established status quo. The unholy alliance of the vast majority of the UK media, the Tory party, the Jewish Lobby & worst of all the 5th column blairites within his own party. Add to that the memos within the civil service of a policy to hinder JC if he were to be elected. Democracy my arse! Edited July 18, 2019 by GOG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I've possibly asked this question on this thread before, not sure. Anyway. Does anyone actually have any examples of anti-semitism creeping into British life? I've been told by friends at home (I don't live in the UK) of Jews feeling worried and being sure to drop off the kids at the school door etc. Yet, I'm completely unaware of anything approaching anti-semitism actually having happened. Genuine question. Have I missed something? I'm not seeing the story here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, JTS98 said: I've possibly asked this question on this thread before, not sure. Anyway. Does anyone actually have any examples of anti-semitism creeping into British life? I've been told by friends at home (I don't live in the UK) of Jews feeling worried and being sure to drop off the kids at the school door etc. Yet, I'm completely unaware of anything approaching anti-semitism actually having happened. Genuine question. Have I missed something? I'm not seeing the story here. Can’t say with certainty. If they’re anything like the claims against Labour they are massively overhyped and don’t come close to the Racism masquerading as Islamophobia rampant within the Tory Party. Much is being made about ‘claims’ and ‘accusations’ of anti-Semitism but little concrete proof. The sad thing is this crying wolf approach may damage attempts to address genuine anti-Semitism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOG Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I reckon if Israel stopped its illegal land grab of Palestine, a lot of these anti Semitic acts/comments would cease. Palestine is a very emotive subject & people, understandably yet unwisely, get angry over it. Are the disgraceful acts of vandalism against Jewish graves the manifestation of this anger, or are they truly based on anti Semitic views? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: General vibe I get is folk in new intake of labour are criticising Israel but saying Jews and this is both understandably upsetting to Jewish members and easily/cynically leveraged by people who just want rid of Corbyn. There's not much evidence of this though. One of the few Panorama examples has already been discredited. The guy who claimed he was sinisterly asked "Where he was from" was actually asked which branch he was from by an elderly Jewish man. If they had concrete examples they wouldn't be making shit up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 6 hours ago, JTS98 said: ... Anyway. Does anyone actually have any examples of anti-semitism creeping into British life? ... The usual narrative on this elsewhere in Europe has been that as the Muslim population increases the traditional left wing party becomes less friendly to Israel as recent immigrants tend to be part of their electoral coalition and the Israel-Palestine issue is something that even Muslims who are not from the Middle East often feel quite strongly about. Labour under Corbyn is attracting many of the sort of people that used to be in George Galloway's Respect and that isn't something that a lot of long time Jewish members of the Labour party are thrilled about, so that's why the focus has shifted from the far right to the hard left where anti-semitism is concerned in recent years. The Panorama documentary seemed to revolve around a perception of an unwillingness on Corbyn's part to be firm enough with people when anti-Zionist sentiment crossed the line into anti-Jewish sentiment. I found the part about the wall mural most convincing in suggesting that there might be a genuine problem with Corbyn, given a lot of the people being interviewed came across as either being so pro-Israel that they might tend to equate legitimate criticism of Zionism as antisemitism or as Blairites who were probably eased out for other reasons and are now looking for a bit of revenge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Haven't watched it yet but having someone recently working in the press office of the Israeli embassy as one of the main critics without mentioning it seems real foot in the mouth stuff by the BBC. If it was propaganda against Corbyn it was a naive way to go about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 General vibe I get is folk in new intake of labour are criticising Israel but saying Jews and this is both understandably upsetting to Jewish members and easily/cynically leveraged by people who just want rid of Corbyn.Anti-semitism is the socialism of fools and what you get when people have an instinctual mistrust of elites and bourgeois capitalism but no understanding of marxism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Somebody I've never heard of has resigned. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/20/gloria-de-piero-quits-labour-frontbench-over-lack-of-tolerance Not sure she specifically meant the anti Semitism because she talks about Quote We have to have respect for each other, even if we disagree, because we are all part of this party,” she added. “This party is about a set of values not any individual and we would all do well to remember that. And while I’m at it, and it doesn’t happen in Ashfield, but when I hear people being called rightwing in the Labour party I find it utterly offensive. “We are all leftwingers in this party – that is why we joined the Labour party,” she said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Adonis on the Derbyshire show just now saying that one of the main issues is the change in Party Procedure which means that "activists" get to choose the leadership rather than the PLP. That would be rank and file members, you entitled c*nt. Like me. As an aside, he's been rabbiting on with VD and Lord desai for a good 15 minutes now, and nobody has brough forward any actual, you know, individual examples of antisemitism backed up with, you know, proof of any kind. Neither (in common with all the MSM I've seen) have any of them mentioned the initiative at the weekend over combatting all forms of racism in the Party. They did, mind, find time to defend Hayter's not-at-all-offensive slur against the Party leadership. Silly woman* couldn't even get the name of the film right, either. *Assuming she identifies as such. You seriously don't want to go making assumptions lightly these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Adonis was posting approving videos of Ronald Reagan the other day. c**t’s a galactic brain Remainer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Tom Watson strangely unavailable to comment on his role in the "paedo" fantasist shambles. Usually like a rat up a drainpipe when an anti semitism rent a mouth required. Hope he's ok.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Tom Watson strangely unavailable to comment on his role in the "paedo" fantasist shambles. Usually like a rat up a drainpipe when an anti semitism rent a mouth required. Hope he's ok..He must be unwell. He's barely off the TV in the last few weeks. Total coincidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Thoughts and prayers..He must be unwell. He's barely off the TV in the last few weeks. Total coincidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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