welshbairn Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: I'm just saying that your quote proves nothing. It certainly does not prove that Staines had any personal role in funding the Contras. Where did you get it? An interview when he was 42. Do you think he was lying? Quote After university he worked for the rightwing fixer David Hart, adviser to Thatcher and fearsome cold war warrior. “He had me behind the Iron Curtain doing things. Getting a fax machine to people in Moscow. Getting intelligence on the shape of the [anti-communist] opposition in Berlin.” Staines has also said he was involved in even more improbable-sounding Hart projects: “It was, ‘Let’s get guns for the [Nicaraguan] Contras,’ that sort of stuff . . . I got to go with these guys and fire off AK-47s . . . it was great fun.” Where exactly did he fire an AK-47? Staines answers as tersely as the most evasive politician: “Various countries.” Then there is a twinkle: “Some of which don’t exist any more.” https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/nov/04/guido-fawkes-blogger-gossip 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Labour students: Lenin was a great theorist and the Soviet Union did some things well. Tory journos: I helped sell guns to nun raping libertarian psychos. The Contras were libertarians? That news to me! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Great return to the Politics Forum for the Brexit Boy, Bishop Briggs. Taking pains to defend *checks note* noted psycho right wing weirdo creep Paul Staines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOG Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 21 hours ago, Detournement said: Lovely people these Israeli officials. Liked this bit - The United States’ Declaration of Independence enshrines the right to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” Unless of course you happen to be Cuban, Afghani, Iraqi, Iranian, Yemeni, Mexican, Vietnamese, Nicaraguan, etc. etc . . . . . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assasinach Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Israeli lobby v Corbyn. despite the formers persistent and ongoing assault, reckon the auld London unionist will rope the dopes. FREE PALESTINE Bits even available with payments for settlement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/29/labour-hits-back-at-reports-of-frail-jeremy-corbyn-health Whitehall civil servants briefing the Times about Corbyn's health The establishment are getting worried. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 It doesn’t matter that they’re getting worried more that the civil service is blatantly going to obstruct a Corbyn government if it takes power. This is the second such suggestion of this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: It doesn’t matter that they’re getting worried more that the civil service is blatantly going to obstruct a Corbyn government if it takes power. This is the second such suggestion of this. That is guaranteed anyway. This might be the most pathetic attack piece yet (excluding Nick Cohen obvs) https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/29/jeremy-corbyn-shuns-glastonbury-no-one-cares-remainers-have-moved-on The most ridiculous thing is that she seems to think that people who are members of "Remain groups" are a vital demographic rather than a tiny number of fixed voters. Edited June 29, 2019 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Detournement said: The most ridiculous thing is that she seems to think that people who are members of "Remain groups" are a vital demographic rather than a tiny number of fixed voters. Really? Edited June 29, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Really? Relatively aye. Most people aren't engaged in politics and struggle to actually name many MPs. The idea that there are loads of voters in "Remain Groups" is completely ridiculous. The actual party in power only have 100k memebrs. Her group is almost guaranteed to be full of other media people. If you are not familiar with her work Ellen is a complete thicko. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: Relatively aye. Most people aren't engaged in politics and struggle to actually name many MPs. The idea that there are loads of voters in "Remain Groups" is completely ridiculous. The actual party in power only have 100k memebrs. Her group is almost guaranteed to be full of other media people. If you are not familiar with her work Ellen is a complete thicko. No idea about her and the Remain groups like People's Vote are clearly tossers, but people who will make Remain the basis of their primary voting choice is no tiny number. Labour have tested their conference Brexit strategy several times, tried for a no confidence vote, tried for their soft brexit, and the next step months ago should have been as the official opposition to force a 2nd referendum. They ignored conference, voted against it when they had an opportunity, and are now kicking the can down the road again for more "consultation" after 3 years of waffle and 3 minutes to midnight. As the leading opposition party they've been utterly useless against a minority government. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This is an absolutely disgraceful comment. I always thought Hunt was a bit of a beige, garden variety Tory c**t but this is awful. UK politics is descending deeper into the gutter each week it seems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assasinach Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 I reckon this is sooooooo dark. A mate’s granddad escaped Aushwitz quite famously as a teenager . His story about how certain Zionist Jews did very well and worked with operations are repressed to an ever increasing level. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 18 hours ago, Assasinach said: His story about how certain Zionist Jews did very well and worked with operations are repressed to an ever increasing level. Oh do go on. I am sure this will be popular on Pie and Bovril. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 On 29/06/2019 at 14:19, Detournement said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/29/labour-hits-back-at-reports-of-frail-jeremy-corbyn-health Whitehall civil servants briefing the Times about Corbyn's health The establishment are getting worried. Fasinating, this thread title i s te "Israel" lobby vs Corbyn. And here you post about civil servants. Anyway I came onto this cesspit of Jew haters to remind people a little of Chris Williamsons background (one strongly shared by Detourment. Quote A Labour MP has said it was a “privilege” to meet and listen to a talk by a controversial pro-Assad blogger, who has previously described murdered MP Jo Cox as a “warmongering Al Qaeda advocate”. Vanessa Beeley made the comment in a tweet almost a year after Cox’s death, and has also written that “Zionists rule France”. Derby North MP Chris Williamson met Beeley at the Beautiful Days festival over the weekend, where she appeared on stage to discuss the Syrian conflict. Quote Beeley is a blogger who has gained notoriety over the last few years for her uncritical accounts of her trips to the country under the supervision of the Syrian regime. She has written that the White Helmets, the volunteer group that rescues people from the rubble of Syria’s civil war, is a terrorist-linked organisation that fakes its activities to elicit sympathy in the West for a regime change plot against Syrian leader, Bashar al-Assad. Link He has regularly praised Beeley as well as supporting the theory the Jews were behind slavery. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/03/labour-mp-faces-deselection-threat-over-chris-williamson-criticism-ellie-reeves People opposing this antisemitic and conspiracy supporting buffoon are facing threats of deselection. Its in keeping with the extremist tone of the current Labour party. One of Williamsons supporters does a 180 live on radio. What a fucking mess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assasinach Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 50 minutes ago, dorlomin said: Oh do go on. I am sure this will be popular on Pie and Bovril. Vrba mate said his Gran hated the Israeli Zionists more than the Nazis. But that’s their story. reality is there’s little acceptance that fascism that we call nazi was and still isn’t confined to the Germans in ww2 and never was. Appeasement was uk Government policy for years with the NSDAP long after Christalnacht fascists come in all shapes, colours and sizes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Assasinach said: Vrba mate said his Gran hated the Israeli Zionists more than the Nazis. But that’s their story. reality is there’s little acceptance that fascism that we call nazi was and still isn’t confined to the Germans in ww2 and never was. Appeasement was uk Government policy for years with the NSDAP long after Christalnacht fascists come in all shapes, colours and sizes. The UK declared war on Nazi Germany less than 10 months after kristallnacht. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, dorlomin said: Fasinating, this thread title i s te "Israel" lobby vs Corbyn. And here you post about civil servants. Anyway I came onto this cesspit of Jew haters to remind people a little of Chris Williamsons background (one strongly shared by Detourment. Link He has regularly praised Beeley as well as supporting the theory the Jews were behind slavery. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/03/labour-mp-faces-deselection-threat-over-chris-williamson-criticism-ellie-reeves People opposing this antisemitic and conspiracy supporting buffoon are facing threats of deselection. Its in keeping with the extremist tone of the current Labour party. One of Williamsons supporters does a 180 live on radio. What a fucking mess. Just for the sake of clarity, what has Chris Williamson said or done that is anti semitic? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Just for the sake of clarity, what has Chris Williamson said or done that is anti semitic? Don't expect a response any time soon. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Just watched Billy Britain's link and unsurprisingly Emma Barnett is being a dishonest right wing gobshite. The Jewish right wing Trump fanatic is a fair description of Jonathan Arkrush by Pete Willsman. Saying that many Jewish people are offended at the weaponisation of AS is simply a fact. Stating that they have been too apologetic is a view held by many people. Labour should apologise for any genuine AS and come out hard against false allegations and smears. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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