The normalisation of the far-right continues

[Duries Air Freshener]

Just now, AsimButtHitsASix said:

If you need a grown up to click the links for you and explain what the big words mean just say so

Didn't actually realise they linked to articles, but I thank you for the usual charm we've all come to expect from you

Authoritarianism - The Independent probably isn't the best source if you seek credibility.  Nevertheless, the accusations of authoritarianism simply don't hold water.  The tweet in question just expressed opinion that GOP voters want loyalty to Trump.

Ultra Nationalism - Nothing in that link suggests she's an ultra nationalist.  Look up the definition of the term and you'll see what I mean.

Chauvinism - How does her agreement with biological reality make her a chauvinist?

Xenophobia - You'd be doing well to explain this one, as all I can see are negative comments about illegal immigration.

Theocratic - At no stage does she call for a theocracy. 

Racism - You're seriously claiming "So I'm walking around and seeing some good people and I see white people, Black people, brown people, yellow people,”is racist?!  That appears to be the premise of the article.

Homophobia - At no one was anything negative about homosexuals or homosexuality said.

Transphobia - All she did was attack Dr Levine for (insert pronoun here)'s stance on entering sports of the opposing sex and have harmful treatment at such a young age.  Any right thinking person would feel the same.

Reactionary - I'll give you that.

I'm now of the conclusion that you didn't even read these links properly yourself.

[Duries Air Freshener]

24 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I think there was a guy kicking around Galilee a couple of thousand years ago who we refer to as Jesus.  He was most likely a very charismatic individual that had a following but was not the son of god and did not perform miracles.

Written accounts of him didn’t appear until long after he was dead and their accuracy will be very questionable.  This makes the fact that some folk believe without question some (but not other) interpretations of what he supposedly stood for is pretty frightening.

 

Not really.  There are plenty good philosophical, scientific, historical and personal arguments that support the existence of Jesus as God.

[AsimButtHitsASix]

11 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Didn't actually realise they linked to articles, but I thank you for the usual charm we've all come to expect from you

Authoritarianism - The Independent probably isn't the best source if you seek credibility.  Nevertheless, the accusations of authoritarianism simply don't hold water.  The tweet in question just expressed opinion that GOP voters want loyalty to Trump.

Ultra Nationalism - Nothing in that link suggests she's an ultra nationalist.  Look up the definition of the term and you'll see what I mean.

Chauvinism - How does her agreement with biological reality make her a chauvinist?

Xenophobia - You'd be doing well to explain this one, as all I can see are negative comments about illegal immigration.

Theocratic - At no stage does she call for a theocracy. 

Racism - You're seriously claiming "So I'm walking around and seeing some good people and I see white people, Black people, brown people, yellow people,”is racist?!  That appears to be the premise of the article.

Homophobia - At no one was anything negative about homosexuals or homosexuality said.

Transphobia - All she did was attack Dr Levine for (insert pronoun here)'s stance on entering sports of the opposing sex and have harmful treatment at such a young age.  Any right thinking person would feel the same.

Reactionary - I'll give you that.

I'm now of the conclusion that you didn't even read these links properly yourself.

None so blind, eh?

[Duries Air Freshener]

Just now, AsimButtHitsASix said:

None so blind, eh?

Don't put yourself down.

[AsimButtHitsASix]

1 minute ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Don't put yourself down.

Sorry, idiot, I was referring to you. The fact I quoted you should have made it clear.

I know we've already had to hold your hand through a lot of simple things like "how links work" but you should understand how the quote function works by now.

Happy to help

[Duries Air Freshener]

1 minute ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Sorry, idiot, I was referring to you. The fact I quoted you should have made it clear.

I know we've already had to hold your hand through a lot of simple things like "how links work" but you should understand how the quote function works by now.

Happy to help

As you know, I know how links work.

Feel free to address my comments.

Also, I thank the person who shall remain nameless that PM'd me, saying that although they don't agree with what I say, the abuse I take isn't merited.

[Salt n Vinegar]

It does seem odd to me that so many folk put their trust in a character and events contained in an aged text. There was a bloke in India -Sathya Sai Baba - who was said to have performed miracles and he lived until 2011.  He had/has many followers, his branches operate in over 100 countries yet I'm assuming that folk around here wouldn't give him or his miracles the time of day.  Maybe ancient audiences were just more gullible.

[AsimButtHitsASix]

2 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

As you know, I know how links work.

Feel free to address my comments.

Also, I thank the person who shall remain nameless that PM'd me, saying that although they don't agree with what I say, the abuse I take isn't merited.

That person also sounds like a c**t

[oneteaminglasgow]

The abuse you take doesn’t go nearly far enough. 

[carpetmonster]

5 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

That person also sounds like a c**t

 

[Mark Connolly]

I wonder how it feels when, no matter the subject, you can never find any evidence that counters your opinion

[dirty dingus]

MTG is a horrible QAnon nutcase and a fake religious racist cow, that is all.

 

[BFTD]

44 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

It does seem odd to me that so many folk put their trust in a character and events contained in an aged text. There was a bloke in India -Sathya Sai Baba - who was said to have performed miracles and he lived until 2011.  He had/has many followers, his branches operate in over 100 countries yet I'm assuming that folk around here wouldn't give him or his miracles the time of day.  Maybe ancient audiences were just more gullible.

The continued widespread belief in religion can only be taken as evidence that, for all our external calm and veneer of rationality, humanity is still a screaming basketcase when faced with inevitable mortality. Deep down, everybody still needs a parental figure to tell them everything's going to be alright.

Also, I'm not paying attention to this entire conversation for...obvious reasons, but has anyone brought up Marjorie Taylor Greene's Jewish space lasers? A classic of the genre.

[oneteaminglasgow]

Just going to leave this here, since we’ve established that Wikipedia is a fair and valid source for what is, and isn’t, far right.

[cyderspaceman]

4 hours ago, Snafu said:

btw I'm reading 'In Search Of Jesus The Anarchist' by Paul Dordal, its an interesting very good read. I read the New Testament before reading it and yeah Jesus was a good guy, very misunderstood, even more misunderstood now. Disapproved of authoritarian rule and materialistic wealth.

Christian anarchists - good guys.

I remember once at a party in the wee small drunken hours, someone explaining that JC was a socialist rebel . (wild times )

[Dan Steele]

14 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

I remember once at a party in the wee small drunken hours, someone explaining that JC was a socialist rebel . (wild times )

The first non-violent revolutionary, so Stephen Stills sang.

[Granny Danger]

33 minutes ago, BFTD said:

The continued widespread belief in religion can only be taken as evidence that, for all our external calm and veneer of rationality, humanity is still a screaming basketcase when faced with inevitable mortality. Deep down, everybody still needs a parental figure to tell them everything's going to be alright.

Also, I'm not paying attention to this entire conversation for...obvious reasons, but has anyone brought up Marjorie Taylor Greene's Jewish space lasers? A classic of the genre.

You should substitute “most people” for “everybody”.

[BFTD]

6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

You should substitute “most people” for “everybody”.

You're not on your deathbed yet.

Edit: unless you are, in which case, commiserations and we'll name a thread after you.

Edited August 18, 2022 by BFTD

[Anonapersona]

1 hour ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Not really.  There are plenty good philosophical, scientific, historical and personal arguments that support the existence of Jesus as God.

There is no empirical evidence so that rules science out.

[cyderspaceman]

21 hours ago, carpetmonster said:

He said before his beliefs could be best described as being ‘close to paleoconservatism’. It p***ked up my ears as a bloke who used to post in a discord server I frequent described himself as such. Most of his posts were either Reagan-era tropes about ‘welfare queens’ and him bemoaning that he was still a virgin fairly deep into his 30s - which is why he doesn’t post there anymore as the mods got fed up with it in fairly short order - but he did at least inspire me to go and look at Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism

I see P&B censored the word 'p***ked'.  What's going on?

eta  Ah.  I'm going to try Scunthorpe.

eta  Ah, Scunthorpe is OK, how about pinp***k, p***kle, p***kear.

eta  Oh dear, the world's going mental.  ( I don't suppose I should use that word)

Edited August 18, 2022 by cyderspaceman
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