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coprolite Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 29/11/2021 at 06:58, LongTimeLurker said: Probably also oblivious to the way that still having an Anglican monarchy due to how a series of 17th century civil wars ended rather than a modern republic with roots in the 18th century enlightenment made it impossible for an inclusive unitary modern British national identity to emerge because Anglicans were rather thin on the ground outside England & Wales. Would have been better if the UK had secularised and rebranded in the early 1800s before competing modern national ideas took root but the establishment were able to keep a lid on protests by the proles and keep archaic institutions like the monarchy and House of Lords in place into the times we currently live in. Or they know their stuff and have come to a different conclusion about national identity? Here's Tom Holland's view https://www.newstatesman.com/uncategorized/2014/07/tom-holland-our-island-story-what-england-and-scotland-share-politically-and 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, coprolite said: Or they know their stuff and have come to a different conclusion about national identity? Here's Tom Holland's view https://www.newstatesman.com/uncategorized/2014/07/tom-holland-our-island-story-what-england-and-scotland-share-politically-and Completely airbrushing the island of Ireland out of things like that is pretty much what recent posts were commenting about. Modern British identity wasn't capacious enough to be warmly embraced Mo Farrah style in Crossmaglen because so much of it is still tied into what happened in the 17th century. Modern Irish identity has similar issues in gaining full acceptance as well. You can't just ignore that in any honest appraisal of the present day. Edited December 1, 2021 by LongTimeLurker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Completely airbrushing the island of Ireland out of things like that is pretty much what recent posts were commenting about. Modern British identity wasn't capacious enough to be warmly embraced Mo Farrah style in Crossmaglen because so much of it is still tied into what happened in the 17th century. Modern Irish identity has similar issues in gaining full acceptance as well. You can't just ignore that in any honest appraisal of the present day. 4 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Completely airbrushing the island of Ireland out of things like that is pretty much what recent posts were commenting about. Modern British identity wasn't capacious enough to be warmly embraced Mo Farrah style in Crossmaglen because so much of it is still tied into what happened in the 17th century. Modern Irish identity has similar issues in gaining full acceptance as well. You can't just ignore that in any honest appraisal of the present day. Some recent posts were. I didn't reply to those though, i replied to yours where you suggested that people must be ill-informed if they had a different view from yours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 The phrasing I used was "oblivious to the way that". That has a different meaning from ill-informed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Hope Donny is on good form and it's not just an hour of him mewling about the stolen election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Watching GMB with that horrible Susannah woman and her creepy looking sidekick this morning talking about how you can't say Happy Christmas now. Loads of dog whistles and then repeatedly interrupting the human rights lawyer who was providing very reasonable comment. It was all a bit weird and very, very redolent of Fox news. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, velo army said: you can't say Happy Christmas now. Damn right, it's "Merry Christmas". 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, velo army said: Watching GMB with that horrible Susannah woman and her creepy looking sidekick this morning talking about how you can't say Happy Christmas now. Loads of dog whistles and then repeatedly interrupting the human rights lawyer who was providing very reasonable comment. It was all a bit weird and very, very redolent of Fox news. It's just a glorified click bait exercise. Let's create an issue that isn't really there and then talk about it so folk get riled up and then they want to watch again. Fox news are masters of this and GMB do much the same although less right wing. I think you'd be hard pushed to find anyone offended is you wish them a merry/happy Christmas. You will easily find folk who are offended if you don't wish them it though. Ironically, tends to be the same folk who have no regard for the religious events surrounding it. I'd wager that 99% of actual churchgoers happily wish each other and other a merry Christmas and understand people if other faiths and none, who do not. It is always those who do not fully understand or partake in the actual events who should the loudest and get the most angry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Amusing that they've positioned that Farage Trump thing as adversarial, as opposed to the colonoscopy it'll actually be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 @Dawson Park Boy sorry mate forgot which one of these is your wife again? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: @Dawson Park Boy sorry mate forgot which one of these is your wife again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 On 01/12/2021 at 11:44, Theyellowbox said: It's just a glorified click bait exercise. Let's create an issue that isn't really there and then talk about it so folk get riled up and then they want to watch again. Fox news are masters of this and GMB do much the same although less right wing. I think you'd be hard pushed to find anyone offended is you wish them a merry/happy Christmas. You will easily find folk who are offended if you don't wish them it though. Ironically, tends to be the same folk who have no regard for the religious events surrounding it. I'd wager that 99% of actual churchgoers happily wish each other and other a merry Christmas and understand people if other faiths and none, who do not. It is always those who do not fully understand or partake in the actual events who should the loudest and get the most angry. I agree with this. I'm a church-goer and the war on Christmas is just never talked about. You get the odd isolated incident in England where things are supposedly toned down for Islam, but scratch the surface and you usually find it wasn't muslims who complained, but white liberal dafties instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Scott Steiner said: the war on Christmas is just never talked about. Most likely because there isn't one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Most likely because there isn't one. Spot on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 10 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Most likely because there isn't one. Cause Boris saved it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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