Gus Setsniffer Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: Long before you and I were born. i know they have officially went by that for many many years, but flyers and party political broadcasts, and other advertising, i only remember them going by conservative, now it just seems all of a sudden Billy Redhand is my local Conservative & Unionist candidate. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Gus Setsniffer said: i know they have officially went by that for many many years, but flyers and party political broadcasts, and other advertising, i only remember them going by conservative, now it just seems all of a sudden Billy Redhand is my local Conservative & Unionist candidate. They are having to do that to be fair. The Conservative brand will forever be toxic in Scotland. The only way to sell it is to emphasise the unionist aspect. Disappointed to see Billy Redhand making it through to candidate status. These oiks are normally only utilised to deliver leaflets. Edited November 23, 2020 by Glen Sannox 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, Gus Setsniffer said: i know they have officially went by that for many many years, but flyers and party political broadcasts, and other advertising, i only remember them going by conservative, now it just seems all of a sudden Billy Redhand is my local Conservative & Unionist candidate. Our one only has Conservative mentioned in tiny print at the bottom of the flyer. You'd think they were embarrassed about something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Glen Sannox said: Long before you and I were born. Not in Scotland they didn't, The Scottish Unionist Party was only renamed the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party in 1965. BTW, the "union" they refer to is the1800 version, not 1707. Minter. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Not in Scotland they didn't, The Scottish Unionist Party was only renamed the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party in 1965. BTW, the "union" they refer to is the1800 version, not 1707. Minter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 You love to see it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: You love to see it Good thing this thread isn't called Rise of the Far Right or you'd have the P&B das throwing out pictures of Kenneth Williams everywhere 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Hungarians are more right than they should be but they’re still not wrong enough to want to leave the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Murdoch's nutter news channel given the green light by Ofcom. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/dec/01/rupert-murdochs-news-uk-tv-channel-given-approval-to-launch Rupert Murdoch’s forthcoming opinionated television news channel will be called News UK TV, with media regulator Ofcom giving the go-ahead for the outlet to start broadcasting as soon as it is ready. News UK TV is racing against the rival Andrew Neil-backed channel GB News to be first on air, with both groups aiming to launch next spring. Despite concerns about the impact of Fox News-style broadcasting, both outlets believe there is a gap in the market for right-leaning television news channels aimed at Britons who dislike the BBC’s output. Although News UK TV’s presenting lineup has yet to be announced, staff have been told to expect big-name hires. Previous names linked to the project include The Apprentice host Lord Sugar and Good Morning Britain’s Piers Morgan, who has been seen in News UK’s London Bridge headquarters, where a studio is being built. The current plan, according to individuals involved in the station, is for News UK TV to be an evening-only service, which will be on air for around four or five hours a night. The proposed lineup will start with an early-evening politics show, a daily political debate programme and an evening news bulletin. The focus of the output will be a flagship resource-heavy evening programme with a big-name host, which sources said until recently had the working title of Gotcha!, echoing an infamous Sun front page from the Falklands War. However, this has now been renamed as The Smart Cast. News UK TV, overseen by former Fox News and CBS News boss David Rhodes, is likely to be free-to-air and the company wants it to be primarily delivered online as a streaming service. However, it applied for a full Ofcom broadcast licence, meaning it is likely to also be available as a traditional television channel in some form. The approach is markedly different from GB News, which is understood to have already secured slots on major distribution platforms such as Freeview. The channel is backed by US media giant Discovery and is looking to create a much more ambitious 24-hour news channel with its own team of reporters across the country. It is due to launch early next year under the leadership of former Sky News Australia boss Angelos Frangopoulos, having lured Andrew Neil from the BBC. Despite industry speculation that GB News could be struggling to raise the roughly £50m it needs to get the project off the ground, the company is understood to be confident of raising the money and will advertise around 100 journalism roles across the UK before the end of the year. Rather than focus on rolling news it says it will provide news for the “vast number of British people who feel under-served and unheard”. In a bid to differentiate itself, the channel is expected to report politics stories from around the country rather than rely on a Westminster base. Both channels, which declined to comment on their plans, will be bound by the Ofcom rules on due impartiality as result of their broadcast licences. Contrary to common belief this does not mean they have to give equal airtime to both sides of a political debate, merely that they have to ensure audiences are exposed to different views. One individual with knowledge of News UK’s inner-workings said management would be acutely aware of how the new channel’s output would impact on Murdoch’s wider global media empire, saying: “You can have as many crap left-of-centre media outlets as you like but if you go centre-right then you get bad publicity because most journalists are lefties.” Murdoch’s media empire – now much reduced in size following his sale of Sky to Comcast and 21st Century Fox to Disney – recently failed in its bid to buy the book publisher Simon & Schuster, meaning it is likely to be on the look-out for alternative investments and acquisitions. The 89-year-old has spent most of the year in Oxfordshire with his wife, Jerry Hall, during which time he has dealt with the formal departure of his son James from the family business. According to a Westminster source, this summer the Brexit party leader, Nigel Farage, was overheard in a central London restaurant discussing conversations with Murdoch about the future of journalism, with the media mogul said to be increasingly excited about the prospect of opinionated video output rather than radio, despite his company’s recent investment in Times Radio. Farage, who has recently started publishing his own video news commentary on Twitter, did not respond to a request for comment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 On 23/11/2020 at 21:24, welshbairn said: Our one only has Conservative mentioned in tiny print at the bottom of the flyer. You'd think they were embarrassed about something. Similar tactics to how the SNP on previous elections didn't promote the independence element at all and focussed on less toxic things. (Then acted like they've won an election of the basis of independence) -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Stormzy said: Similar tactics to how the SNP on previous elections didn't promote the independence element at all and focussed on less toxic things. (Then acted like they've won an election of the basis of independence) Weirdly the Tories campaigns in Scotland were about independence and nothing else, and after claimed it had nothing to do with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Weirdly the Tories campaigns in Scotland were about independence and nothing else, and after claimed it had nothing to do with it. Yes. It is agreed both major political parties in Scotland mislead people in order to obtain votes. As long as we are clear here. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Stormzy said: Yes. It is agreed both major political parties in Scotland mislead people in order to obtain votes. As long as we are clear here. Being as one party are called the Scottish National Party and the other is called the Conservative and Unionist party, I don't think the electorate are in any doubt about where they stand on the issue of independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 28 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Being as one party are called the Scottish National Party and the other is called the Conservative and Unionist party, I don't think the electorate are in any doubt about where they stand on the issue of independence. Yeah but you were making a point over the manifestos not directly saying this specifically Conservatives and I pointed out the same can be said for the SNP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Stormzy said: Yeah but you were making a point over the manifestos not directly saying this specifically Conservatives and I pointed out the same can be said for the SNP. At least The SNP don't have their name in barely readable tiny letters at the bottom of their flyers, with their leader and Brexit never mentioned. If you're talking about their manifestos, the SNP state clearly their aim for independence in every one. Edited December 6, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: At least The SNP don't have their name in barely readable tiny letters at the bottom of their flyers, with their leader and Brexit never mentioned. But they both do the whole political smoke and mirrors on their manifestos sent out to the public. Who'd have thought it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Just now, Stormzy said: But they both do the whole political smoke and mirrors on their manifestos sent out to the public. Who'd have thought it... The first paragraph of the 2019 SNP manifesto. Quote Scotland’s future in Scotland’s hands We believe that the best future for Scotland is to be an independent, European nation. Not for our own sake, but because it allows Scotland to become the open, tolerant, inclusive and democratic nation we are determined to build. By making all our own decisions here in Scotland, we could end poverty faster, play our full part in tackling the climate emergency, ensure a fair deal for pensioners and create new opportunities for jobs and our economy. We have a clear mandate to deliver a new referendum on becoming an independent country, and we are making it clear at this election that next year we intend to offer the people of Scotland a choice over their future. It is important to ensure a referendum is put beyond legal challenge. Before the end of the year, we will demand that the UK Government transfers the necessary powers under The Scotland Act to ensure the decisions about the referendum can be taken by the Scottish Parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The first paragraph of the 2019 SNP manifesto. So you're now denying the SNP have played smoke n mirrors with manifestos... This is why this place has such low IQ discourse, you can't see any negatives in the cult, it's beyond creepy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Stormzy said: So you're now denying the SNP have played smoke n mirrors with manifestos... This is why this place has such low IQ discourse, you can't see any negatives in the cult, it's beyond creepy. I'm just pointing out that you're categorically wrong in saying that the SNP hide the fact their aim is independence in their manifesto. It's at the top of page one, couldn't be any clearer. Here it is if you don't believe me. https://s3-eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/www.snp.org/uploads/2019/11/11_27-SNP-Manifesto-2019-for-download.pdf Edited December 6, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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