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The normalisation of the far-right continues


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3 minutes ago, yoda said:

Ironically, the people who tend to listen to Peterson's life lessons are the biggest "cucks" out there. 

 

1 minute ago, MixuFixit said:

There's a whole generation of young men with faraway looks in their eyes and questionable personal hygiene who spent too long being edgy on the internet with the consequence that women are repulsed by them, and they can't get decent jobs because they can't function like normal adult humans. I can sort of see why having a guy telling them to take a bit of personal responsibility for a small part of their life might be appealing but something tells me the way things are panning out that this isn't turning these guys back into well adjusted normal people.

This and this.

This stuff is kryptonite to any decent women I know.

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Joe Rogan absolutely peddles an agenda, whether or not he does it deliberately is open to debate however. He's a libertarian weirdo. I like some of his material when he has non-political guests on but, if we're being frank, he's "woke" rather than "bright" and has shown time and time again that he's doesn't really have the capacity to think critically. That whole "intellectual dark web" faction is horrendous.

There's a really strange trend online of people (under the umbrella of "wokeness") saying that they're open to ideas and that they're better than you for it. Unfortunately they conflate "I'm open to ideas" with "I can't think critically about things so just expose my existing prejudices". 

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12 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

Case in point:

 

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"He also said all he wanted was to get a job, get married and have kids and told me he was very traditional".

Surely give it 10 years and that's exactly what she'll be after though.

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1 minute ago, MixuFixit said:

It's more the calling feminism toxic and feminists slags that I was drawing attention to.

Yeah that's just a daft thing to say, especially to a young women as you can guarantee she'll take the bait in us vs them way. Ultimately all groups and ideologies are toxic and very weird, best to not get involved in anything.

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3 minutes ago, ForzaDundee said:

Yeah that's just a daft thing to say, especially to a young women as you can guarantee she'll take the bait in us vs them way. Ultimately all groups and ideologies are toxic and very weird, best to not get involved in anything.

The SNP is a group and an ideology, dumbo. You can't adopt a pretend neutrality in public debate

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10 minutes ago, ForzaDundee said:

"He also said all he wanted was to get a job, get married and have kids and told me he was very traditional".

Surely give it 10 years and that's exactly what she'll be after though.

Well, surely the whole point is that it should be up to her what she does with her life. Women aren't just baby makers and housewives

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Just now, Malcolm Malcolm said:

The SNP is a group and an ideology, dumbo. You can't adopt a pretend neutrality in public debate

 Apologies, I logged on yesterday for the first time in 5 year as I've been banned for a long time. The signature is from Indyref/pre-2015 General Election. Simpler times, when all that seemed to matter was whether you were Yes or No.

I still support the SNP but not in everything.

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4 minutes ago, Malcolm Malcolm said:

Well, surely the whole point is that it should be up to her what she does with her life. Women aren't just baby makers and housewives

The quote was "He also said all he wanted was to get a job, get married and have kids and told me he was very traditional"

She is making this out to be a bad thing for some reason. It is up to him to decide what he does with his life. If he wants to simply work and provide a happy life for his wife and kids then he should be allowed to look for this. It's not an us vs them thing like the women is making it out to be. Also it seems a pretty, down-to-earth and self-less life ambition. Perhaps it could be the most fulfilling life possible - hence why the topboys back in the day organised society in this way when they wrote the rulebooks (bible and quran etc.).

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13 minutes ago, ForzaDundee said:

The quote was "He also said all he wanted was to get a job, get married and have kids and told me he was very traditional"

She is making this out to be a bad thing for some reason. It is up to him to decide what he does with his life. If he wants to simply work and provide a happy life for his wife and kids then he should be allowed to look for this. It's not an us vs them thing like the women is making it out to be. Also it seems a pretty, down-to-earth and self-less life ambition. Perhaps it could be the most fulfilling life possible - hence why the topboys back in the day organised society in this way when they wrote the rulebooks (bible and quran etc.).

What is the role (or roles) of women in this? Your avatar is a woman without children who runs a country

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He's a jew so of course he's going to side with Israel over Palestine. 


He made the argument that “Jews build things and Arabs prefer to live in sewage” which might be a rapidly normalising view for the far-right but is still to most normal people a fucking racist view.

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28 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:


I more meant you haven't been on p&b so you've had 5 years living in YouTube's comments and it has given you brainworms

Well there might be some truth to that. Started listening to Joe Rogan almost immediately after I got banned from on here. I don't read the comments though.

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I can’t be bothered to list all the problems with Jordan Peterson but the fact he constantly rails against “post-modern neo-marxism” (a nonsense term) and “cultural-marxism” (a concept invented by the Nazis) means he’s either intelligent and at it or an idiot who doesn’t know any better.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Malcolm Malcolm said:

What is the role (or roles) of women in this? Your avatar is a woman without children who runs a country

I don't think anyone has a defined role. People can dae whatever they please and make your own successes/mistakes.

If your asking what is the role of women in the traditional family model, it's pretty obviously home-making and care-giving for children. If a women chooses to live like this (like many, many do) then they should be encouraged and supported in their choice as it obviously has great outcomes for the children. Women shouldn't feel pressured to keep a career if they don't want to and if the option to not work is available, then what's the point in working? Also men could also choose to do this role but obviously it's usually the women who have a  biological advantage when it comes to care-given so it's usually best to play to that strength. 

It's unfortunate that Nicola Sturgeon wasn't able to have a child as I think she would've been a great mother. If I'm lucky enough to have a daughter I might suggest to my wife that she's named Nicola as I couldn't think of a better female role model.

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6 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

I can’t be bothered to list all the problems with Jordan Peterson but the fact he constantly rails against “post-modern neo-marxism” (a nonsense term) and “cultural-marxism” (a concept invented by the Nazis) means he’s either intelligent and at it or an idiot who doesn’t know any better.

Do you not think it's a bit weird saying there are "problems" with him. You might disagree with some stuff he says but how is this a problem? I often disagree with people but I never think to use that language, I just tell them I disagree and why. If everyone agreed on everything then we'd have problems because existence would be boring. (Would existence even exist? Like if we were just a hivemind  of collective intelligence with no freewill or unconforming opinions would we even technically exist. Like Rene Descartes said "I think, therefore I am".)

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2 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

The weirdest thing about Jordan Peterson in a crowded field is that he's obviously been a full blown communist to the extent of decorating his whole house in Russian propagandist art & naming his child after Gorvachev, has subsequently thought better of it and retrospectively made this weird story that all of that is to remind himself of its dangers instead of just putting it all in the loft.

I've met a few of those types - some people are just naturally a bit extreme.

Adam Tomkins used to be in the Scottish Socialist Party.

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2 minutes ago, ForzaDundee said:

Do you not think it's a bit weird saying there are "problems" with him. You might disagree with some stuff he says but how is this a problem? I often disagree with people but I never think to use that language, I just tell them I disagree and why. If everyone agreed on everything then we'd have problems because existence would be boring. (Would existence even exist? Like if we were just a hivemind  of collective intelligence with no freewill or unconforming opinions would we even technically exist. Like Rene Descartes said "I think, therefore I am".)

Well, reviving and publicising nonsensical Nazi concepts is fairly problematic

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Do you not think it's a bit weird saying there are "problems" with him. You might disagree with some stuff he says but how is this a problem? I often disagree with people but I never think to use that language, I just tell them I disagree and why. If everyone agreed on everything then we'd have problems because existence would be boring. (Would existence even exist? Like if we were just a hivemind  of collective intelligence with no freewill or unconforming opinions would we even technically exist. Like Rene Descartes said "I think, therefore I am".)


I said he has problems mate I didn’t call him the n word or anything.
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