HaikuHibee Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Steve McQueen said: Apparently it comes from a game in the 80's at easter road, Saints fansuses this in reply to the Hibs fans chant of Hibees. Saints is the Club/Team, Saintees always refers to the people. "Saintees" does sound gay. There is nothing wrong with that, and so you be you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I've always known St Johnstone as Fake Saints simply because historically they've resided in the lower leagues while St Mirren tended to exist higher up the league structure. That's obviously not really been the case in the last couple of decades, but overall the success of the Paisley saints over their lesser countryside namesakes is shown up by the stats; for example St Johnstone have never won a League Cup while St Mirren have or the case that while St Johnstone have won the Scottish Cup once that is trumped by St Mirren winning it 3 times. Then there are things like the stadium, fan base, catchment area and the like, all these favour the Paisley club. I don't hold this view due to hubris or some dislike for our farming cousins, if anything I applaud their resilience at managing to punch above their weight over the last 15 years or so. Despite having one of the poorest actual gate receipts they have demonstrated considerable fortitude to propel themselves into the upper echelons of the league. They deserve credit for that. However, when it comes down to it, just about ever statistic has them in our shadow; hence the "Fake Saints". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Buddist Monk said: I've always known St Johnstone as Fake Saints simply because historically they've resided in the lower leagues while St Mirren tended to exist higher up the league structure. That's obviously not really been the case in the last couple of decades, but overall the success of the Paisley saints over their lesser countryside namesakes is shown up by the stats; for example St Johnstone have never won a League Cup while St Mirren have or the case that while St Johnstone have won the Scottish Cup once that is trumped by St Mirren winning it 3 times. Then there are things like the stadium, fan base, catchment area and the like, all these favour the Paisley club. I don't hold this view due to hubris or some dislike for our farming cousins, if anything I applaud their resilience at managing to punch above their weight over the last 15 years or so. Despite having one of the poorest actual gate receipts they have demonstrated considerable fortitude to propel themselves into the upper echelons of the league. They deserve credit for that. However, when it comes down to it, just about ever statistic has them in our shadow; hence the "Fake Saints". I won't go into too detailed a reply, however we were the first Saints to build a soulless plastic concrete stadium on the outskirts of town, and you copied us 15-20 years later. And completely fucked it up! Stands too far back from the pitch and not steep enough to properly see what's going on at the opposite end. Even Hamilton's 2 sided effort is a better matchday experience than loveless street. I can see why the maureens covered it in Celtic signs to pretend it was nothing to do with them in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: I won't go into too detailed a reply, however we were the first Saints to build a soulless plastic concrete stadium on the outskirts of town, and you copied us 15-20 years later. And completely fucked it up! Stands too far back from the pitch and not steep enough to properly see what's going on at the opposite end. Even Hamilton's 2 sided effort is a better matchday experience than loveless street. I can see why the maureens covered it in Celtic signs to pretend it was nothing to do with them in all honesty. Well very little of that is true other than you built your crumbling wreck of a stadium before we moved to Greenhill Road. I at least tried to keep to the facts with my summation. Nice try with the Celtic dig though, it's got to hurt that we have such a good stadium both sides of the OF look to it when in need of a ground other than their own. I notice you don't disagree with my factual cogency though, which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Firstly. anyone who starts a topic with "Serious question" should be openly mocked and ridiculed and, IMHO, should not be allowed to start another topic for at least 5 years. Secondly, St Mirren were formed in 1877, St Johnstone in 1884. St Mirren had 7 years to decide what nickname they wanted and they chose "The Buddies". They can't decide 140 years later that they f'd up and try to steal ours. So. in answer to the original question: St Johnstone are the Saints that are marching in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jake said: Secondly, St Mirren were formed in 1877, St Johnstone in 1884. St Mirren had 7 years to decide what nickname they wanted and they chose "The Buddies". They can't decide 140 years later that they f'd up and try to steal ours. ^^ Fundamentally misunderstanding the situation... "Buddies" are people from Paisley, the actual team is the Saints. Understandable there is some confusion from those who don't understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Buddist Monk said: "Buddies" are people from Paisley, the actual team is the Saints. Understandable there is some confusion from those who don't understand this. Hmmm. That sounds suspiciously like it was made up. However, I admit that I have never taken enough drugs to understand the shenanigans that goes on in Paisley. Most of the inhabitants seem to like to shout out random stuff in the street, and I can imagine some jakey shouting "Buddies are the people, Saints is the team". I suppose if you say something often enough it becomes fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Jake said: I admit that I have never taken enough drugs to understand the shenanigans that goes on in Paisley. I have. Paisley is like Lochee, used to be a town in its own right, swallowed up by a larger city and is now just like a scheme full of drug addled goblins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, tree house tam said: I have. Paisley is like Lochee, used to be a town in its own right, swallowed up by a larger city and is now just like a scheme full of drug addled goblins. Sure, Paisley's a hole. All Perth has is eight cousins, and maybe a cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 52 minutes ago, HaikuHibee said: Sure, Paisley's a hole. All Perth has is eight cousins, and maybe a cow. There's no maybe about it. We definitely have a cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 #perthshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 13 hours ago, Jake said: Hmmm. That sounds suspiciously like it was made up. All you're doing bud is showing your ignorance... https://www.paisley.org.uk/2008/09/what-is-a-paisley-buddy/ That said, being the type that lives with livestock miles from any sense of civilisation, it's only to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 hours ago, PauloPerth said: There's no maybe about it. We definitely have a cow. Used to have 2 but my maws deed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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