What is the point of Labour

[Brother Blades]

Other than Jedi apparently taking a sabbatical, every Labour announcement makes me detest them even more than I already do.

I’ve always been left leaning & was a shop-steward at the tender age of 22, so I guess, a natural Labour voter.

However, I’ve always been pro Indy, joined the SNP just before the vote in 2014, have been somewhat disappointed in the lack of radical ideas that I thought would come with the base support they had post 2014, so cancelled my membership in 2020. I will always vote Yes in any future ref. The absolute neck of Sir Keith (1 MP north of the border) Starmer trying to tell me, what’s best for Scotland has infuriated me. 
I’ll be renewing my membership of SNP tomorrow & hoping that Labour die in England & Wales as they have done here. Absolute power hungry charlatans that will sell any morals they may or may not have had down the river for a sniff of King Chucks crotch as they kneel before him begging to form a government. c***s. 

[Clown Job]

So is that Gordon Brown admitting the UK doesn’t work for Scotland, hence the need for change?

[Antlion]

5 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

So is that Gordon Brown admitting the UK doesn’t work for Scotland, hence the need for change?

Surely not - the strong and stable UK was already improved by “faster, safer, better change”* post-2014.

 

* that is: robbing us of our European citizenship, ending much-needed free movement, and crashing the economy.

[scottsdad]

Broad shoulders...pool and share...something something

[Antlion]

2 hours ago, Stringer Bell said:

Genuinely excited to be able to vote directly for the guy in a ceremonial role who wears a funny chain and cuts the ribbon on the new food bank.

Democracy is back baby. It's good again.

The public reaction to eccie-jaw really ought to be one for @Clown Job

 

[HandsomeRichard]

4 minutes ago, Antlion said:

 much-needed free movement

[Antlion]

2 minutes ago, HandsomeRichard said:

“Restricting free movement has had a devasting impact," said managing director Julian Marks. "But not just on agriculture and horticulture – on pretty much every sector where people from abroad have been working in those sectors for years and now. They’re going home."

You can see why the old UK - the EU member state we voted on in 2014 and which no longer exists - bragged about “Voting No Borders”. It’s since demonstrated that doing a 180 and erecting them in order to deter movement doesn’t work.

[KingRocketman II]

3 hours ago, Clown Job said:

Lol, wit?

This plus Brown saying that Scotland leaving the UK (and thereby rejoining the EU) would be economically detrimental - at its best it is fantasy land/cloud cuckoo politics; at it's worst it is lying, self-serving and manipulative.

There is no way both Brown and Starmer do not believe that being back in the EU would be beneficial on almost every front. Yet in the desperate hunt for votes and power, party and individuals connected to the party will always come first for Labour. At least the Tories are up front about that. 

[williemillersmoustache]

"The choice is no longer between Independence and the status quo" said Starmer.

"So how do the people of Scotland choose Independence then." asked not one of the assembled journalists. 

"YOU CANT YOU JUST FUCKING CANT OK" screamed the disembodied voice of John McTernan. 

"So you're choices are "or not the status quo" said failed Labour candidate Mz Eddie Izzard. 

There are huge guffaws and rapturous applause from the assembled media.

"Now let's get on and deliver REAL CHANGE for A NEW BRITAIN(ɴᴏᴛ ʏᴏᴜ Sᴄᴏᴛʟᴀɴᴅ)" said Starmer. 

Several members of the Scottish press are subsequently taken to hospital for what has been described as self-inflicted injuries suatained by attempting to vigorously clap and w**k at the same time. 

[The Skelpit Lug]

2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

There will be plenty of Scottish Labour voters who don’t identify with Brown

And it's not just Scottish Labour voters who don't identify with Brown. Imagine having him as the poster boy for a bold new vision.

[Brother Blades]

2 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

And it's not just Scottish Labour voters who don't identify with Brown. Imagine having him as the poster boy for a bold new vision.

Bit cruel there, tbh. 

[Antlion]

6 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

And it's not just Scottish Labour voters who don't identify with Brown. Imagine having him as the poster boy for a bold new vision.

Come on - what is it about this lying, amoral living corpse that doesn’t scream “bold” or “new” or “vision”?

Edited December 5, 2022 by Antlion

[The Skelpit Lug]

1 minute ago, Brother Blades said:

Bit cruel there, tbh. 

Oops

[HandsomeRichard]

40 minutes ago, Antlion said:

“Restricting free movement has had a devasting impact," said managing director Julian Marks. "But not just on agriculture and horticulture – on pretty much every sector where people from abroad have been working in those sectors for years and now. They’re going home."

You can see why the old UK - the EU member state we voted on in 2014 and which no longer exists - bragged about “Voting No Borders”. It’s since demonstrated that doing a 180 and erecting them in order to deter movement doesn’t work.

Big business can’t push wages down by employing from Europe as easily anymore.

Cry me a river.

[DA Baracus]

4 hours ago, GTG_03 said:

Why is Gordon brown still seen as being relevant? He should be in a retirement home where he can explain to the carers that his vision of the UK is what's best and that he was once prime minister you know.

I'd like to be able to vote for labour but as long as they treat Scotland like this they'll get nowt from me.

 

Why? They're absolute scum.

[Antlion]

9 minutes ago, HandsomeRichard said:

Big business can’t push wages down by employing from Europe as easily anymore.

Cry me a river.

I assume you’ll also be hoping that big business can’t pull wages down by employing from England as easily in an independent Scotland, etc? Thankfully, most don’t want to throw up borders.

[HandsomeRichard]

5 minutes ago, Antlion said:

I assume you’ll also be hoping that big business can’t pull wages down by employing from England as easily in an independent Scotland, etc? Thankfully, most don’t want to throw up borders.

I’d rather not get into hypotheticals.

[Antlion]

3 minutes ago, HandsomeRichard said:

I’d rather not get into hypotheticals.

Yet you voted for one in 2016.

Edited December 5, 2022 by Antlion

[HandsomeRichard]

Just now, Antlion said:

Yer you voted for one in 2016.

I most certainly did not!

[Granny Danger]

13 minutes ago, Antlion said:

I assume you’ll also be hoping that big business can’t pull wages down by employing from England as easily in an independent Scotland, etc? Thankfully, most don’t want to throw up borders.

He’s a troll*, I wouldn’t waste the effort.
 

* and a shite one at that.