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What is the point of Labour


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So a party that includes people who don't  believe in God and don't believe in the Monarchy is singing a song about both.

They don't believe in Brexit either but now they have to pretend they do because that is how the vote went and it is unpatriotic to disrespect the vote.

This is to appeal to voters who thought Johnson was being patriotic by wearing a Union Jack suit while getting stuck on a zip line.

Bizarre.

Meanwhile the rest of the world is looking on and laughing.

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17 hours ago, btb said:

What is the point of Labour?

Labour chaos as party forced to deny Angela Rayner's claims it would scrap income tax cuts

Right so Starmer says Labour would reinstate the top tax rate at 45% aligning himself with those radical Socialists David Cameron & George Osbourne - what is the point of Labour?

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13 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

 

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Maybe they selectively quoted her, and her full quote was “nationalism is a regressive ideology unless it’s UK nationalism, and it’s us doing it”.

More likely is that she’s just a fucking idiot.

ETA: This response would seem to indicate that #2 is correct.

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1 hour ago, Clown Job said:

 

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Only a fool would look at the policies of the SNP and those of the Labour Party and decide we were the regressive ones.

Or maybe she simply means there’s something intrinsically regressive in people wanting to be in charge of their own country.  Like all the regressive people in France, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Canada, etc. etc etc.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Only a fool would look at the policies of the SNP and those of the Labour Party and decide we were the regressive ones.

Or maybe she simply means there’s something intrinsically regressive in people wanting to be in charge of their own country.  Like all the regressive people in France, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Canada, etc. etc etc.

 

 

And the UK, don’t forget, which Labour agrees needs to “take back control” and “make Brexit work”. The UK is far more regressively nationalistic than any of the states you mention; and Labour wants us all to know that it can and will wave a Union Jack in support of that regressive nationalism.

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11 hours ago, Antlion said:

And the UK, don’t forget, which Labour agrees needs to “take back control” and “make Brexit work”. The UK is far more regressively nationalistic than any of the states you mention; and Labour wants us all to know that it can and will wave a Union Jack in support of that regressive nationalism.

Absolutely, as @Clown Job refers to folk like Nandy seem totally oblivious to their blindly patriotic British nationalism whilst criticising those of us who want Scottish Independence.


As an aside, before I referenced @Clown Job there I always thought his user name was Clown Joe!
 

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24 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Absolutely, as @Clown Job refers to folk like Nandy seem totally oblivious to their blindly patriotic British nationalism whilst criticising those of us who want Scottish Independence.


As an aside, before I referenced @Clown Job there I always thought his user name was Clown Joe!
 

Clown Joe is the name of his evil twin…

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1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

Absolutely, as @Clown Job refers to folk like Nandy seem totally oblivious to their blindly patriotic British nationalism whilst criticising those of us who want Scottish Independence.


As an aside, before I referenced @Clown Job there I always thought his user name was Clown Joe!
 

I can confirm I am not Joey The Clown

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2 hours ago, Alert Mongoose said:

It won't take very long if they 'start talking to Scotland again' for them to realise the error of their ways.

You'd have thought they'd have learned from Thatcher's "we're just not getting our message across" BS. 

I also doubt that it would even be a case of what you describe as 'talking to Scotland'... more likely to be talking AT Scotland. 

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1 hour ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

The deluded fuckers think that everyone in Scotland is desperate to vote Labour again. Ignoring the fact that they have been routed in pretty much every election here since 2010.

Starmer's lurch to the right isn't going to improve their chances either.

Where Labour go doesn't matter. They had 5 years of Corbyn, and it didn't help one bit in Scotland. All this talk is to soothe the English swing voters who will soon be bombarded with "coalition of chaos" stories in the press.

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On 25/09/2022 at 11:42, Granny Danger said:

I’m not sure why the Labour Party bother holding a conference any more.  Every effort is made to ensure anything the leadership disagrees with is not on the agenda and even where there is overwhelming support for a policy it is completely at the leader’s discretion as to whether any notice will be taken of it.

It is genuinely the case that policy for the political party that may be the next government is being made by one man aided by unaccountable advisers.

Seriously just ditch the facade of democratic policy making.

 

FUCKING SNAP!

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Delegates should be fucking raging.  Historic decision made by CLPs and affiliates and Starmer treats them all with contempt.

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22 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Only a fool would look at the policies of the SNP and those of the Labour Party and decide we were the regressive ones. 

Like the Andrew Wilson neoliberal 'dream' for Independence, designed to pair back public services to the bone, leaving monetary control in the hands of the Bank of England, and keeping the markets happy with a 0.5% growth rate target (which would make George Osbourne blush), or the Spectator hailing Kate Forbes as the 'McMilton Friedman of Scottish nationalism', due to the aim of cutting 30-40,000 public sector jobs, or perhaps the Scot Gov telling public sector workers to only ask for ;sensible' pay rises, (after rail workers rejected 2.2%)or maybe even handing multinational energy giants, Shell and BP 20% of ScotWind (the other big investor being TotalEnergies to build wind farms off our coasts, at a cost of £700 million paid by the Scot govt, enabling Shell, BP,, TotalEnergies to rake in £5 billion of profits (which won't be 'reinvested' in Scotland, as they have their foreign shareholders to consider. 

Is it that 'radical' SNP you mean?

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Heard a clip of Anas Sarwar earlier saying some pish about the clock ticking for those in Bute House as well as some nonsense about taking back Westminster powered by Scotland.

What a loathsome little arsehole of a man. Wee Tory lite p***k.

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4 hours ago, scottsdad said:

Where Labour go doesn't matter. They had 5 years of Corbyn, and it didn't help one bit in Scotland. All this talk is to soothe the English swing voters who will soon be bombarded with "coalition of chaos" stories in the press.

It’s astounding that the Tories and their media pals would think this - an unveiled attack on Scotland having any say in the UK government - would work in light of the years of historically unprecedented Tory-led chaos.

It’s even more astounding that they’d be right: the same voters who put the Tories in a position to disembowel the UK on an unprecedented scale would fall for it hook, line, and sinker - again. 

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