Guest Jedi Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 7th Sept Redfield and Wilton Sample 2000 Lab 42% Con 30% Libs 14% Green 6% SNP 5% Others 4% Lab lead 12% That is quite some Tory jump in 4 days....however, Lab vote is holding up...Lib Dems switching as ever to the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 As the thread title asks, what is the point of Labour? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/14/labour-mps-warned-about-talking-to-media-except-for-queen-tributes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 12/09/2022 at 22:22, Jedi said: 7th Sept Redfield and Wilton Sample 2000 Lab 42% Con 30% Libs 14% Green 6% SNP 5% Others 4% Lab lead 12% That is quite some Tory jump in 4 days....however, Lab vote is holding up...Lib Dems switching as ever to the Tories. Dead queen bounce! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 On 14/09/2022 at 21:00, Granny Danger said: As the thread title asks, what is the point of Labour? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/14/labour-mps-warned-about-talking-to-media-except-for-queen-tributes Well done Cive. Keef will be pissed mind you. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/16/idea-of-monarchy-as-symbol-of-duty-or-sacrifice-a-lie-says-labours-clive-lewis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 On 12/09/2022 at 19:56, Jedi said: They most certainly should be discussing scrapping FPTP. Given that opinion polls at the moment suggest Lab short of a majority and needing the support of the Lib Dems to form a govt, that would presumably be a central part of any negotiations. They definitely shouldn't hold another Referendum on it though, but make it part of policy to be enacted by a majority in parliament. Also, for all the talk of a Truss bounce in the polls, the Lab lead has increased since she took over to between 12-15% No no no. There was a referendum on the Westminster voting system eleven years ago, and I distinctly heard Nick Clegg say that it was a once in a generation opportunity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Well done Cive. Keef will be pissed mind you. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/16/idea-of-monarchy-as-symbol-of-duty-or-sacrifice-a-lie-says-labours-clive-lewis I thought (naively it seems) that Lewis was a good bet for future leader of the Labour Party. Given the state of the current party, and Lewis's occasional silly lapses, this seems like a hopelessly optimistic view of his chances. He should have ticked a lot of boxes with disparate elements of the Party and the electorate, including: a non-privileged background; of mixed race origin; having worn the Queen's uniform; and, most importantly, retaining some vestiges of Socialism in his political philosophy. It now transpires, that of all of these characteristics, the one most likely to stifle his progress in the current Labour Party is the Socialist bit. Funny old world, innit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Thane of Cawdor said: I thought (naively it seems) that Lewis was a good bet for future leader of the Labour Party. Given the state of the current party, and Lewis's occasional silly lapses, this seems like a hopelessly optimistic view of his chances. He should have ticked a lot of boxes with disparate elements of the Party and the electorate, including: a non-privileged background; of mixed race origin; having worn the Queen's uniform; and, most importantly, retaining some vestiges of Socialism in his political philosophy. It now transpires, that of all of these characteristics, the one most likely to stifle his progress in the current Labour Party is the Socialist bit. Funny old world, innit? Aye I thought he could be a future leader and still do. If the Labour Party can swing from Corbyn to Stramer they can maybe swing part of the way back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 This could be interesting. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/17/keir-starmer-labour-party-conference-pay-picketing-jeremy-corbyn Some senior figures are now backing calls for proportional representation. Labour’s affiliated unions had been a barrier to the party supporting a change, but several are now in favour of moving away from the current voting system. High-profile figures such as the Greater Manchester mayor, Andy Burnham, spoke out in the summer in support of a change. Writing in the Observer, he said it would allow more cooperation between political parties on urgently needed social reform. A similar motion on proportional representation was defeated last year, but supporters say that opposition has softened further since then and more unions have backed a change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 This guy was originally a Labour MP; this comment typifies the “fùck the poor” attitude. Speaking on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, the Speaker of the House of Commons, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, said: “We should not allow anything to overshadow the most important event the world will ever see and that’s the funeral of Her Majesty.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: This guy was originally a Labour MP; this comment typifies the “fùck the poor” attitude. Speaking on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, the Speaker of the House of Commons, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, said: “We should not allow anything to overshadow the most important event the world will ever see and that’s the funeral of Her Majesty.” I still cannot fathom what was going through his mind to actually utter those words, even if it's something he genuinely believes due to having a completely insane worldview and bizarre sense of priority. Still, with the lunacy that's gripped England, maybe he'll end up the next Prime Minister on the back of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, BFTD said: I still cannot fathom what was going through his mind to actually utter those words, even if it's something he genuinely believes due to having a completely insane worldview and bizarre sense of priority. Still, with the lunacy that's gripped England, maybe he'll end up the next Prime Minister on the back of it. He constantly comes across as a man absolutely desperate for a peerage 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 54 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: This guy was originally a Labour MP; this comment typifies the “fùck the poor” attitude. Speaking on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, the Speaker of the House of Commons, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, said: “We should not allow anything to overshadow the most important event the world will ever see and that’s the funeral of Her Majesty.” I'd rather that someone perfected the generation of electricity by fusion than watch the funeral TBH. Or, on a related matter, an announcement that the climate crisis has been solved. Or that Rangers would win the League this season. Or that Raith Rovers would win the Championship. Or that Putin had "fallen out of a window". In fact, if I was to sit down and really think about it for long enough, watching the Queen's funeral probably wouldn't make it into the top thousand things I'd like to see. Hoyle certainly doesn't speak for me on that issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Future school text books of the greatest moments in human history 1. 96 year old has funeral 2. World hunger ended 3. World peace 4. End of disease 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Party of the working class 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Clown Job said: Party of the working class Hopefully there’s some Dundee United fans there.., 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Whereas only failed Labour MPs benefit from a Labour government, isn’t that right, m’lord? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Whereas only failed Labour MPs benefit from a Labour government, isn’t that right, m’lord?He obviously forgot Glasgow City Council spending £1.5 million to oppose equal pay - when it was run by Labour.Stones and glass houses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 PR again it momentum. Labour really needs to take note. such a move would remove the possibility of another far-right Johnson/Truss style government. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/22/majority-of-uk-public-agree-with-liberal-views-on-race-and-sexual-identity-annual-poll Support for change in the UK voting system? There was majority public support for the introduction of a proportional representation system for voting MPs into the House of Commons for the first time since the survey began in 1983. Just over half (51%) favoured reform, up from 27% in 2011). While a majority of Labour voters supported PR (61%) only 29% of conservatives favoured electoral reform. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Listening to Angela Rayner on some podcast telling us how whether people would be able to eat or heat themselves this winter "suddenly paled into insignificance" when she was handed a note saying "the Queen was unwell." I know it's unfair but to hear that accent just bow and scrape and lick the shite covered heels of aristocracy and privilege at direct cost to actual people, rips my knitting. Mental. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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