Antlion Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Is that meant to help convince Scot’s to vote for Labour or is that meant to appeal to English voters? “Sure, you can push for a divisive referendum on whether or not to remain locked in Brexit Britain, or…” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 In this clip, the bold Jack Straw who last came to my notice, alongside Malcolm Rifkind, during the cash for access scandal, does his best to win over the wavering SNP vote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Chance for [mention=37891]WhiteRoseKillie[/mention] to meet a genuine working class hero!Apart from the geographic clue in my username, the only chance of our paths crossing would be if he decided to attend Durham Miners Gala. Can't see it, tbh - he might catch Socialism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 In this clip, the bold Jack Straw who last came to my notice, alongside Malcolm Rifkind, during the cash for access scandal, does his best to win over the wavering SNP vote The only guest speaker at over twenty years of POA conference that I ever walked out on. A vain, lying, cheating cűnt who personified the very worst of Blair's government. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Would certainly help if Labour took this opportunity to actually put some policy proposals on the table, on say the economy. health and crime. This is their chance to make a 'big' offer, not in 2 years time. They could also be taking about how they will 'clean up' politics. All they are asking for at the moment is VAT to be scrapped on energy bills (albeit it should be) Edited February 1, 2022 by Jedi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, Jedi said: Would certainly help if Labour took this opportunity to actually put some policy proposals on the table, on say the economy. health and crime. This is their chance to make a 'big' offer, not in 2 years time. They could also be taking about how they will 'clean up' politics. All they are asking for at the moment is VAT to be scrapped on energy bills (albeit it should be) You can only think that they're waiting for the Tories to implode before risking advocating spending plans and policies that a percentage of focus groups might not like, and financial journalists might pick apart. It's what you get when you put a cautious lawyer in charge of a political party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Agree...but think they need to really start outlining what they will do differently...big chance for them build momentum while Johnson stays on..they have to start controlling the narrative on policy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Starmer’s spent two years tearing up or reneging on every policy that got him elected and indeed that’s been his only sustained claim, that he’ll go against the members if necessary. f**k all of substance is coming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 What is clear is that now Starmer has a chance to be "heard" by the electorate. Rolling out policies would be a good idea and allow him to seize the agenda. Johnson is planning to do a policy blitz soon - he gets it - and Starmer needs to get in first. "Green new deal" isn't enough. It was around when Corbyn was in charge but doesn't have the same impact with the public as crime/NHS/schools does. He needs something on one of these. Something substantial. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Those with long memories may remember John Smith as Labour leader. He took over after Kinnock's defeat to Major in 1992 and followed a cautious path immediately after the election- Starmer is reminiscent of that. Major's government eventually got embroiled in sleaze and splits and Smith's untimely death meant that it was Blair who enjoyed electoral success. To my mind if Labour announced policies now then the mainly Tory supporting UK press would tear into them (or Boris nick them). I would guess there is a manifesto ready for a snap election in a locked safe somewhere but meanwhile as another election could be a few years away it's better to sit and watch Boris make an arse of things meanwhile. Oh, and Smith who was seen as a Labour centrist, if not slightly to the right of the party, would probably now be seen as some kind of dangerous left winger... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Smith would have moved to the right. Centrists don't have fixed policy postions they have a fixed relationship to capital. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Winning the argument makes no difference if you can never be in power because of the way the system is set up Governments in Holyrood can be held to account 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Clown Job said: Winning the argument makes no difference if you can never be in power because of the way the system is set up Governments in Holyrood can be held to account Looks like the dozy arsehole has scored a bit of an own goal there: claiming that independence from Westminster is a weak solution to Westminster arbitrarily doing bad things is … odd. A bit like saying “ugh - imprisoning serial killers so they can’t stab people is weak. Locking people up is so lazy!” Moron. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 39 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Sir Keef is all in in getting the gammon vote in the north back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, doulikefish said: Sir Keef is all in in getting the gammon vote in the north back ..and losing the votes (and subs) of long-time supporters and members. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Thanks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Gammon vote hunting in full swing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 How long until Labour pledge to bring back hanging? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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