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Gordon Brown may not be without his faults but there aren't many politicians of his calibre in the UK.  I would argue that the UK would be in a far better position with him as PM managing the pandemic than the clowns currently in Westminster.
Given that I'm not a Scottish Lab voter, not entirely sure why I'm defending him.
Gordon Brown is the most overrated political figure in the UK. A youthful socialist, he and many of his Labour contemporaries soon sniffed the career coffee and became a fully paid-up Atlanticist. He bankrolled Blair's illegal war in Iraq and struck a grubby deal to enable him to become an UNELECTED Prime Minister. Since being papped out he's tried in vain to become Scotland's conscience. A superannuated fud, of appeal only to Archie MacPherson and a few elderly acolytes.
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Just now, NotThePars said:

I repeatedly referred to Drakeford as Carwyn Jones for about 6 months after he replaced Jones and even people within Labour didn't correct me.

It shows how apathetic they're getting. Watching Wales just now is very like watching Scotland not long ago, Plaid are vibrant, young, full of ideas and gaining traction fast.  The same thing will happen to Labour in Wales as happened here.

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12 minutes ago, the snudge said:

Hes a career type dude. Only thing I like about him is his background in mental health. The candidates the snp are fielding seem to have a fleeting interest in the area 

Yep, careerists all over the place. For me this election is essentially the snp’s last shot, they’ll get a majority but somethings gonna give after. The quality of candidates is an absolute joke tbh. 

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Probably the wrong topic to ask but has there been any mention of how the Covid situation will affect the upcoming elections? If the SG still have restrictions in place, surely we can't have groups of people all turning up at polling stations at one time? 

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13 minutes ago, Scosha said:

Probably the wrong topic to ask but has there been any mention of how the Covid situation will affect the upcoming elections? If the SG still have restrictions in place, surely we can't have groups of people all turning up at polling stations at one time? 

Legislation has been passed allowing it to be moved or done all-postal. Returning Officers have said that it's far too late to do it all-postal now, that processing required couldn't be done in time - especially with their staff working from home too.

Opposition parties are in favour of delaying but SG have said they're not making a decision yet and are aiming for normality if possible. But with nobody able to campaign and knock doors it might be unfair to hold it in May.

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Gordon Brown may not be without his faults but there aren't many politicians of his calibre in the UK.  I would argue that the UK would be in a far better position with him as PM managing the pandemic than the clowns currently in Westminster.
Given that I'm not a Scottish Lab voter, not entirely sure why I'm defending him.
This is the same Gordon Brown who oversaw the deregulation of the banking system in the UK that was one of the drivers of the Credit Crunch?
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Gordon Brown is the most overrated political figure in the UK. A youthful socialist, he and many of his Labour contemporaries soon sniffed the career coffee and became a fully paid-up Atlanticist. He bankrolled Blair's illegal war in Iraq and struck a grubby deal to enable him to become an UNELECTED Prime Minister. Since being papped out he's tried in vain to become Scotland's conscience. A superannuated fud, of appeal only to Archie MacPherson and a few elderly acolytes.
So what do you really think about him?
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52 minutes ago, Aladdin said:

Gordon Brown may not be without his faults but there aren't many politicians of his calibre in the UK.  I would argue that the UK would be in a far better position with him as PM managing the pandemic than the clowns currently in Westminster.

Given that I'm not a Scottish Lab voter, not entirely sure why I'm defending him.

Maybe 15 years ago. It's like Barcelona trying to turn around their recent troubles by signing Pep Guardiola to play centre mid.

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39 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

I repeatedly referred to Drakeford as Carwyn Jones for about 6 months after he replaced Jones and even people within Labour didn't correct me.

I was trying to remember who was Scottish Labour leader before Richard Leonard and couldn't do it today.

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9 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:
57 minutes ago, Aladdin said:
Gordon Brown may not be without his faults but there aren't many politicians of his calibre in the UK.  I would argue that the UK would be in a far better position with him as PM managing the pandemic than the clowns currently in Westminster.
Given that I'm not a Scottish Lab voter, not entirely sure why I'm defending him.

This is the same Gordon Brown who oversaw the deregulation of the banking system in the UK that was one of the drivers of the Credit Crunch?

Yes.  Hence the reference to his faults.  He was also one of the only world leaders in 08/09 who didnt completely brick themselves at the crisis and at least came up with a response.  He also admitted the deregulation was a mistake.

As I said, not entirely sure why Im defending him.   You can say he was shite, but the current crop of Labour politicians are, in the main, watery, wet farts in comparison.

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31 minutes ago, GordonS said:

Legislation has been passed allowing it to be moved or done all-postal. Returning Officers have said that it's far too late to do it all-postal now, that processing required couldn't be done in time - especially with their staff working from home too.

Don't see why, they've got the electoral roll computerised so all they have to do is send it to the printers. They'll have to order more paper and ink in but there's 4 months till the election. Only people raising it so far as I can see are Unionist hacks, not surprising looking at the polls.

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