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3 hours ago, Namond Brice said:

Came on to actually post this, before Dunt's stupidity distracted me.

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Given that we are an island of curtain twitching, snivelling grasses, this might actually go down well with voters.

'Next generation neighbourhood watch' is heavy Black Mirror vibes though. Not long until an Amazon Prime robotic dog rips me to shreds for walking up the wrong street after it identifies that I couldn't afford any of the houses there.

I remember when Jack Straw and David Blunkett were Home Secretary being deeply concerned about about how they wanted to increase state surveillance powers and reduce peoples privacy and freedom etc. I see things have not really changed.

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It's worth bearing in mind that in the 2015 election George Osborne pledged that the minimum wage would be £9 by 2020 (obviously it wasn't and isn't but it wasn't unrealistic with a Remain vote and a full Cameron second term).

The fact that Starmer will only beat that by a quid for the year 2025 at a time when inflation is starting to climb just shows that he and the likes of Reeves are completely compromised. They are in place to destroy the party and the wider labour movement. 

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You have to admire Starmer’s strategy, policies that are unlikely to win back former ‘Red Wall’ voters whilst alienating left-of-centre Labour activists and voters.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist but there’s as much chance of him being a Tory plant as there is of him being just a beige, incompetent b*****d.

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On 04/04/2020 at 17:23, Bully Wee Villa said:

People don't have to vote for the Tories or the Lib Dems.

Here is Starmer's platform. That whole "common ownership" thing sound centre-right to you? 

It is a radical platform for a party which is still offering radical alternatives.

https://keirstarmer.com/plans/10-pledges/

 

 

On 04/04/2020 at 17:31, Detournement said:

I wonder why it says 'common' and not public......

 

 

On 04/04/2020 at 18:13, Bully Wee Villa said:

Well, it is pretty much what was in the last manifesto, so hardly a shock. But I see you're approaching the new leader with an open mind, so I'll leave you to it.

Imagine that. 

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10 hours ago, Namond Brice said:

Came on to actually post this, before Dunt's stupidity distracted me.

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Given that we are an island of curtain twitching, snivelling grasses, this might actually go down well with voters.

'Next generation neighbourhood watch' is heavy Black Mirror vibes though. Not long until an Amazon Prime robotic dog rips me to shreds for walking up the wrong street after it identifies that I couldn't afford any of the houses there.

Taking policy ideas from Hot Fuzz for the greater good (the greater good), luv 2 c it. In this vein I'm looking forward to them telling us to head to the Winchester for a nice cold pint and wait for the fuel/food shortages to blow over, as well as death sentences for street performers.

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2 hours ago, Thistle_do_nicely said:

Taking policy ideas from Hot Fuzz for the greater good (the greater good), luv 2 c it. In this vein I'm looking forward to them telling us to head to the Winchester for a nice cold pint and wait for the fuel/food shortages to blow over, as well as death sentences for street performers.

As someone who works in the Old Town during the Fringe I would wholly applaud that policy.

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Been quite interesting watching people who spent 5 years angrily shouting about lies on the side of the bus now puffing sagely on their pipes and laughing at the members that bought into Starmer doing the same thing with his campaign pledges. I do agree that anyone who bought into what he was selling is a credulous sucker but unlike them I kinda think he's a c**t for lying to get elected.

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Stamer has so far lost 115,000 members.

Make that 115,001. I will never support a Party led by a lying fucking Tory, no matter what title he wants to give himself.

Taking an average of full/concession subs, the Party has lost about £600k/month. Big business will happily step in to fill that gap - there's been no shortage of "partnership" branding throughout Conference - but these fuckers will want their pound of flesh. I have no doubt they will get it.

Oh, before anyone jumps in - yes, individual members also expect a return on their money,  but a Socialist Party would be working for its members, not for the c***s who have got the world into the state where Capitalism is kiling not only people but also the actual fucking planet.

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He's got to work on his catchphrases.

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That is what this party is for. That’s the object of the exercise and as the leader of this party I will always have that eye-on-the-object look. How beautiful it is, that eye-on-the-object look.

 

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