What is the point of Labour ?

[NotThePars]

19 minutes ago, Gordon EF said:

Whoever writes the speeches for senior Labour figures really should lay off the 'spend the first 3 minutes talking about what jobs your parents did' strategy.

Given the alternative is actually offering working and lower middle class people policies which will benefit them and are popular it's not a surprise that they spend their time reminiscing about the secure and relatively well-paid job their parents did if it's blue-collar coded. We definitely need to have a moratorium on letting anyone point to their upbringing as indicative of their class especially if they earn 80 grand a year.

1 minute ago, Detournement said:

 

I'd say you are both wrong in the same way. 

The purpose of all the parties now is to manage the decline brought on by the climate crisis and the collapse of capitalist rate of profit in a way which protects the super rich and the small minority they rely on to sustain their lifestyles. 

Tories, Labour, SNP and Greens are doing this perfectly. 

I know exactly why they're doing it but it's very funny to watch how bad they are at doing it. The SNP at least are able to win a substantial number of people over to their cause even while it stalls. On the other hand Labour's base continues to desert them and the people who copy and pasted their gossip into the broadsheets make the minimum possible effort to sell their message as it turns out it's more entertaining to derail a train than drive it.

[Detournement]

5 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

Given the alternative is actually offering working and lower middle class people policies which will benefit them and are popular it's not a surprise that they spend their time reminiscing about the secure and relatively well-paid job their parents did if it's blue-collar coded. We definitely need to have a moratorium on letting anyone point to their upbringing as indicative of their class especially if they earn 80 grand a year.

I know exactly why they're doing it but it's very funny to watch how bad they are at doing it. The SNP at least are able to win a substantial number of people over to their cause even while it stalls. On the other hand Labour's base continues to desert them and the people who copy and pasted their gossip into the broadsheets make the minimum possible effort to sell their message as it turns out it's more entertaining to derail a train than drive it.

It doesn't matter which party wins. What matters is the dominant ideology and all the parties have that locked in now. 

The Labour right understand this perfectly. 

Edited September 27, 2021 by Detournement

[Benjamin_Nevis]

It doesn't matter which party wins. What matters is the dominant ideology and all the parties have that locked in now. 
The Labour right understand this perfectly. 

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

[101]

Glad to see that Labour have some of the finest public speakers on their front bench 

 

 

[Dawson Park Boy]

26 minutes ago, 101 said:

Glad to see that Labour have some of the finest public speakers on their front bench 

 

 

Can’t give a straight answer to a simple question.

Starmer was the same on Marr yesterday.

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

 

 

[NotThePars]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

It doesn't matter which party wins. What matters is the dominant ideology and all the parties have that locked in now. 

The Labour right understand this perfectly. 

The Labour Right also want to win when they're in charge. Sometimes (debatably) being good at something (stage managing their internal democracy or wrecking) doesn't mean they're good at everything else. 

[Granny Danger]

26 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

 

 

Very hard hitting resignation.

 

ETA pleased with the motion condemning Israel for Apartheid.

Edited September 27, 2021 by Granny Danger

[Detournement]

8 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

The Labour Right also want to win when they're in charge. Sometimes (debatably) being good at something (stage managing their internal democracy or wrecking) doesn't mean they're good at everything else. 

Agree to disagree. Controlling the Overton window then sailing off into the sunset with a few lucrative jobs a la Tom Watson seems to be the aim of most of them.

[Steve_Wilkos]

28 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

[doulikefish]

53 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

 

 

 

[D Angelo Barksdale]

I like this slogan, they should use it in Scotland.

 

[Granny Danger]

The Labour Party conference has rejected PR in favour of keeping FPTP.  Absolutely horrendous decision that shows the undemocratic dinosaur attitude of the unions.  CLPs overwhelmingly in favour, unions largely opposed.

 

[yoda]

1 hour ago, Namond Brice said:

I like this slogan, they should use it in Scotland.

 

 

One of the Novara grifters used the "No Surrender" bit in a meme during the Euros.

It was ironic or something.

 

[williemillersmoustache]

Neatly summarised.

[NotThePars]

The world’s most credulous man caught out again by his heroes you truly hate to see it.

Ian Dunt is so stupid.

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Laughing because this is exactly what Dunt and others like him wanted.

It really takes a special type of credulous moron to be continually surprised like a toddler playing peek-a-boo, that a. The Tories are in fact utter c***s and b. The Labour right have absolutely nothing to offer apart from purging the left and trying to look hard with crackdowns, like a poundland version of the Tories.

The British liberal press, never knowingly wallet inspected.

 

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Came on to actually post this, before Dunt's stupidity distracted me.

Given that we are an island of curtain twitching, snivelling grasses, this might actually go down well with voters.

'Next generation neighbourhood watch' is heavy Black Mirror vibes though. Not long until an Amazon Prime robotic dog rips me to shreds for walking up the wrong street after it identifies that I couldn't afford any of the houses there.

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

Ian Murray chose a great week to declare that the stupid Jocks should only vote for Labour or Tory from now on if they want an adult government.

[Detournement]

58 minutes ago, Namond Brice said:

Came on to actually post this, before Dunt's stupidity distracted me.

Given that we are an island of curtain twitching, snivelling grasses, this might actually go down well with voters.

'Next generation neighbourhood watch' is heavy Black Mirror vibes though. Not long until an Amazon Prime robotic dog rips me to shreds for walking up the wrong street after it identifies that I couldn't afford any of the houses there.

Finally he wants to nationalise something!

Unfortunately it's the Nextdoor app.